11 minutes ago, speedyTC said:

Lighten up, Markus. You're reading way too much in a post that was made tongue-in-cheek.

We live in a world that is going to hell in a hand-basket. Bringing that same intensity to a forum that is dedicated to simming (basically a game) is entirely unnecessary. IMO, naturally.

I will think about what you wrote. Thanks for sharing. 

If you are bored with default or AI ATC then I would suggest Vatsim/Ivao on their events. You will never get bored there.

Edit: and Free too.

Edited March 24, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80

... and the voices are pretty realistic, at least good enough for me.

2 hours ago, Noel said:

does BATC pay attention to where you are? 

Yes.  I once accidentally got in heading mode and missed a waypoint.  Not long after, I was told I was off-course and it instructed me direct to the next waypoint on my route.

Just now, jetlag said:

Yes.  I once accidentally got in heading mode and missed a waypoint.  Not long after, I was told I was off-course and it instructed me direct to the next waypoint on my route.

Now that you mention that yes, me too once.  But how about elevation changes?  This is the part that puzzles me as mentioned.

23 minutes ago, Noel said:

But how about elevation changes? 

Don't know.  I'll give it a try.

23 minutes ago, Noel said:

Now that you mention that yes, me too once.  But how about elevation changes?  This is the part that puzzles me as mentioned.

Of course it does. Two days ago I thought I heard ATC tell me to descend via the STAR, instead, he told me I was cleared into the STAR but did not clear me to descend. As soon as I busted 1000 feet lower I was reprimanded. 

25 minutes ago, Mike T said:

Of course it does. Two days ago I thought I heard ATC tell me to descend via the STAR, instead, he told me I was cleared into the STAR but did not clear me to descend. As soon as I busted 1000 feet lower I was reprimanded. 

After they clear me for the star and runway, I always tell them when I am ready to descend.

 

Well, as said, I was WAY OVER where I should have been to direct me to turn right to intercept 16L at KDEN.  And yet, it still told me to turn right to the Rwy 16L intercept and have to descend 4K feet in 8 miles.  That, of course, was my bad for missing the descent call but it does support the notion BATC is not always looking at what should be instructed when something has gone awry and instead just does what it thinks should be instructed based on an idle descent, not the actual location of the plane.  How else do you explain that?

3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

After they clear me for the star and runway, I always tell them when I am ready to descend.

 

It has been both ways and random for me. BATC has cleared me to descend via the STAR. Other times I'm coming up on my decent point and call ATC and let them know I'm ready to descend. I've learned that I've got to actually pay attention after I busted altitude yesterday which I thought I was cleared to descend but was not. It's the same with SIDs. Sometimes it's climb via the SID. Sometimes is climb to an initial altitude. 

I wish we could have celebrity voices in BATC. Arnold Schwarzenegger (I'll be baaack), Jack Nicholson (Here's Johnny!), Jeff Lebowski Bridges (Yeah...like...that's just your opinion, man...),

12 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Save it. His trolling is so far advanced, he doesn’t even realize when it’s happening. Logic, reason, and evidence don’t work here. It’s not your job to convince him; if he wants to try it, it’s gotta be his decision. Just like when he started using the iFly…he hated it, then it became his absolute favorite plane. Just let it go. 

I can still clearly remember that back to early stage of BATC,  in one thread, how badly this Bob guy mocking at BATC and how strongly defending PF3 as if it's the best atc software which he was using at that moment. and look at his 180 degree changed attitude to BATC right now.   You just let him be.  He's always right one. 

12 hours ago, Noel said:

does BATC pay attention to where you are?

My answer would have to be 'usually not, really'. Others already posted they were told once or twice they were off track but the last two times BATC told me that I was absolutely perfectly on track had I had no idea why BATC was saying that.

On the ground BATC doesn't seem to mind where you are and what you do. Now I usually taxi the exact way I am told to and I hardly meet traffic (smaller airports) so that's why I perhaps have no proper experience with this but whenever I accidently or on purpose take another taxi route BATC says nothing and in fact the map adjusts the ordered route to my current position, just like Google Maps does in my car.
And if the runway is too long and I decide to take off from a nearby intersection BATC doesn't yell at me: I can switch to tower without questions being asked, ask for take off and BATC is fine with that.

Yesterday I was running short of time so just before I started the STAR into ENTO (which would lead me from the north to the south of the airport and then back again for the approach) I decided to cut the entire STAR and fly straight to the IAF. Instead of asking ATC for a shortcut (which would have been useless) I made a 90 degree turn towards the IAF, I switched to tower on my own discretion, descended to the appropriate altitude and intercepted the ILS without BATC yelling at me once or tower asking me what the hell I was doing there.

So no, BATC doesn't really care what I do or where I am. It simply accepts it all.

Now let me repeat: I love BATC and won't fly without it so I definitely am in the BATC camp 😉 but it's far from perfect and it's lacking way too many options after all this time. Development is very slow (I was the 10th guy who joined their Discord when BATC was just an idea only and I've been using BATC since the very first beta so I think I know what I am talking about) and the developers spend too much time on adding new stuff while they should be fixing the basics. But I LOVE IT anyway! 😉 

@mistolip:  OMG, I could have written those exact words myself, all of them to the very end!  My comments have been mostly expressing some surprise that some of these seemingly fundamental elements aren't quite there yet.  But also it seems to be improving, yet I've not had a recent update, so have to assume I'm getting a little better with BATC 😉.

That being said I still prefer to use FSLTL's injector with it.  The overall experience and performance is better for me.

Edited March 25, 20251 yr by Noel

14 hours ago, Noel said:

@mistolip:  OMG, I could have written those exact words myself, all of them to the very end!  My comments have been mostly expressing some surprise that some of these seemingly fundamental elements aren't quite there yet.  But also it seems to be improving, yet I've not had a recent update, so have to assume I'm getting a little better with BATC 😉.

That being said I still prefer to use FSLTL's injector with it.  The overall experience and performance is better for me.

I got an update just yesterday, about my 5th one in the last week and a half.