1 hour ago, MarcG said:

if they don't then all hell will break loose

Only in a world where folks take a game much to seriously.

5 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

Only in a world where folks take a game much to seriously.

You mean this world then!

1 hour ago, MarcG said:

There's still serious issues that need fixing, if they don't then all hell will break loose. I hope the continued "silence" is because they're hard at work trying to fix the main issues, needs at least one more beta update before going public.

I agree. I guess (and hope) that they will have us test one more beta before release.

21 hours ago, MarcG said:

There's still serious issues that need fixing, if they don't then all hell will break loose. I hope the continued "silence" is because they're hard at work trying to fix the main issues, needs at least one more beta update before going public.

I agree, but I think the silence and the last beta build being pretty lacklustre means we're close to the final release. My prediction is that we'll see it released tomorrow, followed by an announcement about SU3 next week.

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Double post.

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Its only semantics but IMO every release of 2020 and 2024 is a beta whether or not they name it that.

Its just a matter of degree in how far off centre on the BETA/Full Release scale the team consider it to be, its never a done thing.

 

49 minutes ago, Rusty Spanner said:

Its only semantics but IMO every release of 2020 and 2024 is a beta whether or not they name it that.

Its just a matter of degree in how far off centre on the BETA/Full Release scale the team consider it to be, its never a done thing.

 

In terms of a "Continually Developed Title" they certainly do things very differently from countless titles I've been involved with in the past. The neglect in fixing what they break is a blatant area which does make it seem like we're in an eternal beta, but if there's one thing I've learned since 2020 it's that they don't give two hoots about professional quality control. It's very much a "that'll do get it out" attitude, they are if anything constantly swimming against the tide and then they released the tsunami that is 2024 which pegs them back further.....to the point 2020s SU16 is postponed when if was supposed to be released last year.....further evidence of poor management all round.

Still, at least the rocks and pebbles are nice eh 😂

17 minutes ago, MarcG said:

to the point 2020s SU16 is postponed when if was supposed to be released last year

Am I correct in assuming that MSFS 2020 was never considered "Final"?

If so, I would've assumed Asobo would have tied off all the loose ends with SU16 and said something to the effect of "This is the final version of 2020.  We will continue to support it for the promised 10 year timeline, but our priority now is 2024".  

I can understand and sympathize with delays in updates, as I'm guilty of it myself, but I would always find some way to update everyone through some kind of official channel.

26 minutes ago, GoranM said:

We will continue to support it for the promised 10 year timeline

The ten year promise was about the franchise, not MSFS specifically. Support for MSFS will last until 2028.

51 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

The ten year promise was about the franchise, not MSFS specifically. Support for MSFS will last until 2028.

Opinions could definitely vary on the interpretation of that promise.  But that has already been debated ad nauseam, and there are people on both sides of that debate.  

But if it is indeed true, that 2020 was left unfinalized, with a pending SU16, that has now been indefinitely scrapped, I wouldn't think that is being fair to those of whom prefer to stay with 2020 for a little while longer, with no further announcements.  At the very least, they could have tied it off and fixed any easily fixed, sim breaking bugs, if there were any.  

I'm one of those people that will wait a while for any software to be considered stable before purchasing.  I'd rather stay with the stable version until then.  I stayed with Windows 10 for over a year before upgrading to 11.

THE embarassing thing is that we now are 4.5y after release and in the official forums you can find zillions of threads criticising the non-existent or bad communication philosophy of Asobo and yet they learnt absolutely nothing. Stubborn attitude. People want to know what is going on, but they simply dont get it. Why not simply telling us customers why there is such a delay in SU2? Or SU16 for MSFS2020? Still better than no word at all even if the reason might not be taken positive by most...

Every piece of software ever released is a beta whether it's a game or Windows. It is always constantly patched, tweaked and upgraded.  MSFS2020 would never be 'finished' and it's now an outdated version of the MSFS platform. You are lucky it still works at all. There is no reason for anyone to continue to develop for it or for Asobo to support it. Having moved wholeheartedly to MSFS2024, I would be disappointed if they wasted any time working on the previous version at the expense of developing this one. 

 

So, they should dump MSFS 2020 instantly because you have moved over to MSFS 2024? Got it.

No dear, that's not what I said. 

50 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Opinions could definitely vary on the interpretation of that promise.  But that has already been debated ad nauseam, and there are people on both sides of that debate.  

But if it is indeed true, that 2020 was left unfinalized, with a pending SU16, that has now been indefinitely scrapped, I wouldn't think that is being fair to those of whom prefer to stay with 2020 for a little while longer, with no further announcements.  At the very least, they could have tied it off and fixed any easily fixed, sim breaking bugs, if there were any.  

I'm one of those people that will wait a while for any software to be considered stable before purchasing.  I'd rather stay with the stable version until then.  I stayed with Windows 10 for over a year before upgrading to 11.

Yep, I agree about the fact the statements by MSFS can be interpreted in different ways, but I believe I'm right 😁 It would indeed be unfair if the team would decide to leave MSFS unfinalized. I hope I'm right in saying this won't be the case and MSFS will receive updates until 2028.