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PMDG 777-200ER Released

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8 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Sounds are believable, and you can definitely feel the flight model difference compared to FS2020. It feels like the first robust airliner experience in FS24. 

Sounds very promising. Again I'm getting that itch to switch.

I'm still shuffling back and forth between PMDG 777's and 747's in FSX, and the BBJ1 in MSFS 2020. I'm still somehow attached to the "feel" of FSX and its simplicity, like not having to worry about when I'll be able to get back to the computer. The pause at TOD is really just that, plain and simple.

On the other hand I'm attached to the looks of MSFS. 2020 is amazing enough for me. If 2024 boosts the looks and the flight feeling even more, then it's hard for me to resist.

Managed a successful long haul flight from Rio de Janeiro to Fort Lauderdale in MSFS 2020 in the BBJ yesterday. The scenery on final into 10R with the sun setting behind me, the aircraft shadow in front of me with the glittering light and these like fish ponds right before the runway looked so incredible, I'm still savoring the memory of the experience today. I think it'd be even more amazing in the 777 in 24.

Hope PMDG and Asobo get the regular pause at TOD sorted out in 24. It's kind of like a mosquito that keeps coming back with its high pitched buzz. You can live with it, but at times it can get really nagging.

Like you meticulously plan a 777-200er flight in MSFS24, say from Frankfurt to Chicago. You're really curious about the winds and the route you picked and watching it all unfold. It's your day off, so plenty of opportunities to pop back into the cockpit periodically, watching Iceland off your starboard, and later the Labrador coast before you. You're occasionally taking a peek at an almost identical flight on Flightradar24 on your phone when you're away from the computer. But as you approach the Great Lakes you gotta make dinner or something similar, sorry no way around it, sometimes annoying real life obligations. And before you know it, boom, your real life counterpart has landed and what you were expecting was going to be exactly 8 hours and 33 minutes has now become 9 hours and 22 minutes on your elapsed time or something like that, and it's just a minor first world nuisance, get over it, but somehow, that's one thing I can't.

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  • V1ROTA7E
    V1ROTA7E

    What an enjoyable experience in 2024. Smooth as butter, everything worked the first load. It's a pretty standard PMDG plane experience, but they did a good job getting it working in 2024. Loaded in, d

  • Man what is going on in these forums the last couple of days? ... Its all so .. unpleasant ... Misinformation abounds and a whole lot of negative energy ... sheesh..  

  • edu2703
    edu2703

    Just did my first flight. Smooth, without any hiccups. The performance is incredible, even better than some default aircraft. Nothing to complain about at the moment. Regarding someone's comments

Is anyone having microstutters every 10 seconds or less?? Its only happens with 777-200, and in MSFS2020 i haven't tried in 2024

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Reverse thrust on an aircraft like this is not used to slow down planes. It is used to relieve the brakes a bit. You will only notice a difference in landing distance on wet runways.

That's not my experience from flying the BA level D 777 sim at Heathrow - I did a test with max reverse no braking and the deceleration was very noticeable (seatbelts on lock through decel)  from touchdown to around 60kts where it then washed out. 

1 hour ago, B777ER said:

They had to milk all the impulse buying of those wanting a 777 in 2024 before releasing the -300ER and the 777F into 2024 because many already have those in 2020 that come with dual licenses. This was 100% a money grab by them at the expense of desperate flightsim enthusiasts who can’t wait any longer for the 300 & F to come to 2024 no matter what RSR opines.

Man, if you can't wait less than a month to have your 77W and 77F to work in msfs24 and feel obliged to buy the 772, you are the first to blame!

And btw, as I assume you already bought the 77W and/or 77F for msfs, they still work in that sim you know!

I might buy this 772 later this year, but I won't rush, I have patience and can wait. And I can wait for my 77W to be msfs24 ready.

There are a couple of reasons I am likely going to pick this up:

  • COA had the 772, and the VA that I fly COA in is that fussy on the livery;
  • The new Eastern Airlines charter has them. I can fake it with the -300 as they were going to get them at one point
  • The size difference I think could be fun
  • Some retail therapy may be in order.
1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Reverse thrust on an aircraft like this is not used to slow down planes. It is used to relieve the brakes a bit. You will only notice a difference in landing distance on wet runways.

Sorry, absolutely incorrect. Actually, we have on the EFB and performance data tables where you can compute the landing distance with or without reversers.  What is true is that below 80 kts, it is not as efficient and just makes noise. What is correct is that modulating reverse thrust will modulate the autobrakes, more reverse, less brake strength on the respective settings. Also, an incorrect statement about wet runways. What you are referring to about landing distance being affected on wet runways depends on whether your antiskid is operational or not. 

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Reverse thrust on an aircraft like this is not used to slow down planes. It is used to relieve the brakes a bit. You will only notice a difference in landing distance on wet runways.

Thanks!!! Makes sense.

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34 minutes ago, kand said:

That's not my experience from flying the BA level D 777 sim at Heathrow - I did a test with max reverse no braking and the deceleration was very noticeable (seatbelts on lock through decel)  from touchdown to around 60kts where it then washed out. 

Reverse thrust cannot be strong enough to lock your seat belts. I bet you had auto-brakes activated.

1 hour ago, Culley4246 said:

I just tried reverse thrust, The plane goes in reverse just like the other PMDG 777 models.

So your plane actually moves backwards? I can get the PMDG 777 to move in backward in reverse, but only if a single engine is in reverse. 

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Still no pushback on EFB nor CDU.

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I purchased the PMDG 777-300 for MSFS 2020 so PMDG owes me the 2024 version. But I couldn't wait and bought the 777-200ER. It is pretty special and I am very happy with it. I have been spending time on the Fenix Airbuse but miss tjhe big Boeing twin.

 I have flown the $26 MM airliner simulators and the PMDG is the best 2D experience that most closely replicates the flight characteristics, of the full motion simulator. It is quite incredible.

Here is my PMDG 777 test flight in United livery. PMDG did a great job. It is sure beautiful. 

 

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11 minutes ago, crimplene said:

Reverse thrust cannot be strong enough to lock your seat belts. I bet you had auto-brakes activated.

That is correct about locking the seat belt, though there is a very slight forward body movement. More pronounced if they have the MAX AB setting.  
 

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

10 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

So your plane actually moves backwards? I can get the PMDG 777 to move in backward in reverse, but only if a single engine is in reverse. 

Yes, it will, but it is not authorized for that kind of operation. 

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

Just flew LEMD- LSZH, with it, smooth as silk, they have done a good job on this.

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2 hours ago, Shug said:

Well I've tried 4 flights and 3 of them have resulted in CTDs. The only successful one was 1 hr 38 minutes long. Last flight was just 3 minutes 15 seconds before the CTD. No clues in the Event Viewer other than just the simulator .exe failed.

Looks like this is heading into the hangar behind the A350. Another expensive mistake on my part.

FORGOT TO TAG. MSFS2024
 

So for me, I took a quick flight for about 40 minutes right after purchase and install. A quickly initiated flight which seemed nominal but during descent I could not get the plane to slow down and it was a battle all the way to FAF, which I arrived at +2000 above FAF altitude, missed approach.  Well I said, must have been user error.  Parked the plane and committed to do a full flight later in the evening with full planning and meticulous attention to detail in setting up the aircraft for flight.  I’ve been flying PMDG Boeings for around two decades and understand the workflows so I expected the flight, KPDX to KDEN to be uneventful and without issue, and it sure looked to be that way right up until approach into Denver.  Flying the FLATI4 arrival, all was well until the plane was on an extended IFR downwind, HIMOM to TELLR.  At TELLR the plane does a 180 turn to about a 20 mile final for RWY 34R.  That extended downwind was a vector and I noticed I needed to do a direct to TELLR to move beyond the vector and establish the final approach.  Like I do often I went to select TELLR via the lsk so I could replace the vector leg with a direct to TELLR.  Clicked the lsk…nothing happened.  Tried again, still no good and then tried to delete the vector leg with no success.  I then realized the FMC was stone cold frozen.  Plane was flying, engines running, on course but the FMC was locked up solid.  Cancelled the flight and gave up for the night.  I figured if this was a true bug others would experience a similar event so I decided to share my experience in the hope of getting confirmation from others having similar symptoms.  That’s has been it so far.  0 for 2.  Not a good start, but the jury remains out for me for now.  That’s my story and I’m sticking to it LoL.

-B

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