Pretty thin folks. Enjoy

-B

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sim-update-16-beta-1-39-2-0-release-notes-june-3rd-2025/722679

SU16 for FS2020 is as useless as water in hell. What's the point really?? Just to say that Asobo is supporting the 2020 like they would?! They are not! They are full force fixing 2024 because it has been a very rocky launch and bug filled sim. Its better now but not near stable like 2020 is. 

Edited June 3, 20251 yr by Aviator_2024

11 minutes ago, Aviator_2024 said:

SU16 for FS2020 is as useless as water in hell. What's the point really?? Just to say that Asobo is supporting the 2020 like they would?! They are not! They are full force fixing 2024 because it has been a very rocky launch and bug filled sim. Its better now but not near stable like 2020 is. 

Then by that measure they're probably focusing on the right things?

40 minutes ago, Aviator_2024 said:

SU16 for FS2020 is as useless as water in hell. What's the point really?? Just to say that Asobo is supporting the 2020 like they would?! They are not! They are full force fixing 2024 because it has been a very rocky launch and bug filled sim. Its better now but not near stable like 2020 is. 

They (MS/Asobo) are not interested to really fix MSFS2020 (AI traffic, better Maps, etc.), otherwise they'll never sell one copy of MSFS2024 anymore.

Let's put lie detectors on the three Asobo guys during the Developers Stream ! 

1 hour ago, Aviator_2024 said:

SU16 for FS2020 is as useless as water in hell. What's the point really?? Just to say that Asobo is supporting the 2020 like they would?! They are not! They are full force fixing 2024 because it has been a very rocky launch and bug filled sim. Its better now but not near stable like 2020 is. 

Why are you getting upset? The day is coming to a end for 2020. Why keep utilizing resources on older tech when the market is moving in different direction. The ride is eventually coming to an end soon. So don't get upset, I purchased $100's of dollars in addons for 2020 that's just sitting there not being used, not because I want to but because since the release of 2024, I can't go back. Sure, some bugs but overhaul the best Sim out there.

1 hour ago, Fielder said:

Let's put lie detectors on the three Asobo guys during the Developers Stream ! 

Why?

Edited June 3, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sim-update-16-beta-1-39-0-0-release-notes-may-19th-2025/721971

LOL, MSFS2020, as far as Jorg and Asobo are concerned, is cooked. Put a fork in it. 

Me: Let's put lie detectors on the three Asobo guys during the Developers Stream ! 

Tuskin38: Why?

Me again: Because the post right above mine said "They (MS/Asobo) are not interested to really fix MSFS2020" And if he is correct, then Asobo telling us in every Stream that they are trying to fix 2020 would be lie. Personally I don't think they are lying. 

2020 had a great run!  It still works really well!  There are a handful of really high end addons.  I made a TON of free liveries for 2020 addons - I spent countless hours on those...  but am happy to adapt my skills and do what needs to be done for 2024.  Does no one remember that we had FS2000, FS2002, 2004 (FS9), FSX???  Yet people are whining about 4 years of an incredible sim...

What do people expect?  Free content updates/upgrades forever more?

Sure it's a bit frustrating that 2024 isn't as backwards compatible as Asobo claimed, but I'm happy to support the next generation of Microsoft Flight Simulator just as I support Laminar's X Plane 12.  I love what both sims have to offer and I will continue to support developers and addon developers for each!

I'm stuck in two minds, on one side the less they "fix" the less chance there is they'll break something else as is their approach to updates. On the other side they're clearly not attempting to fix the back log of bugs & issues with 2020 when they said they would "support" it.

It's more like they're doing it for the sake of doing it after they said they would, so do the bare minimum and eventually make up an excuse to stop future updates "because of 2024". So it'll be interesting what SU17 looks like...if it'll ever come!

10 hours ago, edpatino said:

They (MS/Asobo) are not interested to really fix MSFS2020 (AI traffic, better Maps, etc.), otherwise they'll never sell one copy of MSFS2024 anymore.

I would have given them a year,

 

6 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

2020 had a great run!  It still works really well!  There are a handful of really high end addons.  I made a TON of free liveries for 2020 addons - I spent countless hours on those...  but am happy to adapt my skills and do what needs to be done for 2024.  Does no one remember that we had FS2000, FS2002, 2004 (FS9), FSX???  Yet people are whining about 4 years of an incredible sim...

What do people expect?  Free content updates/upgrades forever more?

Sure it's a bit frustrating that 2024 isn't as backwards compatible as Asobo claimed, but I'm happy to support the next generation of Microsoft Flight Simulator just as I support Laminar's X Plane 12.  I love what both sims have to offer and I will continue to support developers and addon developers for each!

 

Thanks for all your hard work, I and many others appreciated it 

I like many spent a ton on 2020, but so far £0 for 2024. The fact I'm waiting still for 95% of my Orbx purchases to come across justifies my decision. I'm not expecting free upgrades on everything, but many just need minimal work - especially some of the small Austrian airports that I love.

I'm very reluctant to lay down hard earned cash again on what is essentially an early access title - why would I do that, it's folly - I'm not paying full price again, that's a total rip-off in many cases.

 

Instead and for now my £££ is going into SIM racing atm, Le Mans ultimate (early access but works!), AC EVO etc and I'm having great fun with that. 

 

They really dropped the ball, not only have MS cost themselves - but also the third party developers.

I enjoy watching people put the nail in the coffin on 2020 in a thread about a 2020 update while Asobo/MS have publicly stated they are still updating 2020 to the same digital twin earth model as 2024... Ironic LOL.  The release notes ALWAYS get thinner on the Beta's as they get closer to release.  

Don't throw the dirt on that coffin quite yet folks...

Edited June 4, 20251 yr by psolk

1 hour ago, psolk said:

I enjoy watching people put the nail in the coffin on 2020 in a thread about a 2020 update while Asobo/MS have publicly stated they are still updating 2020 to the same digital twin earth model as 2024... Ironic LOL.  The release notes ALWAYS get thinner on the Beta's as they get closer to release.  

Don't throw the dirt on that coffin quite yet folks...

The release notes were thin in the first update when you take out the specific aircraft stuff, still waiting on fixes to items THEY broke in past updates...