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This is really really getting old....Please read ASOBO!

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Im not one to vent within the flight sim community and Ive been around since those FS4 days in the mid 90s. MSFS2020 runs great on my machine and there are a just a very few moments FS24 runs "good" for its state. Why has this issue with what seems to be server latency or whatever it is making my flying and i know many others complete useless in FS24. There is a topic already posted on this and has many many votes and I know its being "investigated". I have attached a video of my flight over Los Angeles area. This is complete BS that many of us are still dealing with this issue and totally making at least for me a unflyable flight experience. My system specs are just fine for this sim, and I have seen many streamers with my video card, my CPU, and with only 32Gigs of memory not 64Gigs not having any of these issues.  My graphic settings are mostly high with some medium, tried TAA, DLSS with no change. Tried new drivers, older drivers with clean installs, updated audio drivers...updated chipsets and firmware for my system. Still the issues are still there. Resizable BAR on and off, makes no difference. No other game I have on my system has this issue but FS24. I hope Beta 3 has a priority on getting this issue resolved and lower the priority on planes, and other items that are not related to the foundation of the platform to get the performance improved. Now on the other hand, if someone in the forums takes a look at this video and can help with my my frames can be a solid 40 and then tank to 1, 5....15...20 then back to 40 even when Im at a very very high altitude, I would appreciate it. Now in the video I also turned off BATC to rule that out...and nope, it was just as bad with out it. Im at a complete loss with 24 and cant fly it. Also tried rolling cache off, 16, 32, 64 and now 128 running on my NVME drive with same results.

 

ok, Im, done, just really disappointed since the flight started so good, smooth on the ground, and after departing and climbing over 2000ft, it begins with this mess.

 

 

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    It has nothing to do with cache, the issue is the sim injecting large chunks of data which causes a CPU spike and eventually the stutters. 

  • usernamerequired
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    There’s a lot of snake oil advice in this thread that I’d personally stay away from, it could end up messing up your system. There’s a massive thread on the official forums about this issue, and

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    Just to compare and not to brag - 2024, almost daily flights over LA, 3060TI, 5900X and never stutters.  Also 1080p with a 32gb cache. dd

The exact same thing happens to me, and there’s no fix for it on our end. From what I’ve gathered over the past couple of months of testing, this happens in heavy PG areas. The LA region is the worst for me. No matter what settings I use, I get stutters. I also know it’s not my hardware: I’m running a 9800X3D, 5080, and 64GB of RAM. Maybe it's a streaming issue or it's software related. Who knows. 

If you read the forums, the team has claimed multiple times that they can’t replicate the issue, which, if you take their word for it, likely means they’re running the sim in a closed session and not streaming it like end users do, or they know about the issue and can’t resolve it. Either way, I can’t fly in 2024 because of these stutters, so I’ve gone back to 2020 until it’s fixed.

Just to compare and not to brag - 2024, almost daily flights over LA, 3060TI, 5900X and never stutters.  Also 1080p with a 32gb cache.

dd

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Right, there are many they don't have this issue. That's what is so frustrating. Forgot to mention that my Internet speed is 600mps

Asus Tuf Gaming Plus B550 - Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Asus GeForce 4080 RTX OC Edition - 64GB DDR4 (3600Mhz) - EVGA 850W Power Supply - 2X 1 TB NVME PCIE gen 4 - Windows 11 (25H2)

Join the club.

'Never in the field of flight simming was so much promised (and not delivered) to so many by so few'

I've tried every flight sim since they were invented (yes, I'm *that* old!) ... and MSFS is the single most frustrating/poorly designed/half-baked one of the lot.

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Just did a flight testing out the iFly from KSAN-KPDX. Flight was smooth until landing and taxing to the gate. The sound starts cutting out and then CTD. When the sound starts cutting then I know the sim will CTD. Pretty frustrating

I forgot to mention that with stutters, it is a good idea to recreate the rolling cache.  I use 32gb.

dd

1 hour ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Just to compare and not to brag - 2024, almost daily flights over LA, 3060TI, 5900X and never stutters.  Also 1080p with a 32gb cache.

dd

4K with a 200GB cache. No stutters. 

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uninstall Nvdia audio and poping audio disepaears.

I will try Cache at 200 gb

 

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3 hours ago, Bill A said:

Right, there are many they don't have this issue. That's what is so frustrating. Forgot to mention that my Internet speed is 600mps

600 mbs is of little use to you when ms servers are only chucking out scenery at 30 mbs 

There are good days and bad depending upon overall usage I guess, but it seems like MS are really scrinpung on server capacity.  Of course it could be our ISPs connections to MS, but I'm guessing not.

Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)

It has nothing to do with cache, the issue is the sim injecting large chunks of data which causes a CPU spike and eventually the stutters. 

6 hours ago, Bill A said:

Im not one to vent within the flight sim community and Ive been around since those FS4 days in the mid 90s. MSFS2020 runs great on my machine and there are a just a very few moments FS24 runs "good" for its state. Why has this issue with what seems to be server latency or whatever it is making my flying and i know many others complete useless in FS24. There is a topic already posted on this and has many many votes and I know its being "investigated". I have attached a video of my flight over Los Angeles area. This is complete BS that many of us are still dealing with this issue and totally making at least for me a unflyable flight experience.

Two things I would recommend:

  1. Make sure your rolling cache is set large enough.  Probably at least 32 GB, and even larger if you can afford it.  Repeat the flight twice, and then note down whether this stuttering and audio popping occurs only on the first flight, or if it occurs on the first and second flight. If it occurs on the first flight but not the second flight, then it's because the area you are flying in hasn't been cached before in the rolling cache, so it could be an internet connection issue with the MSFS server.  If it occurs on both flights, then it's probably not an internet connection issue, because on the second flight, that area that you flew should have been cached already in the rolling cache.
  2. Turn the graphics settings in MSFS 2024 down to the minimum and repeat the flight.  Yes, it won't be a fun flight, but it's for testing purposes only. If you turn your MSFS 2024 settings down to the minimum, and the stuttering and audio popping stop, it's because your system is struggling to handle the graphics levels that you have set. But at least you know this is the issue, and you can devise a plan to best deal with it.

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4 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

I forgot to mention that with stutters, it is a good idea to recreate the rolling cache.  I use 32gb.

dd

Yes, thanks for your work around. But, honestly this should not be necessary because its not productive. Rolling Cache its intention is to avoid downloading every time again to reduce this load. And now we need to delete, create new and download again die flight. So we create load and reduce fluid experience die loading times. And I assume servers really struggling with different workloads. 

Also this annoying heavy stutters while climbing or descend through 500 feet .. 

The most crucial flight phase is a mess due this stutter fest. 

After so many months we still struggle to have stable flight phase throughout the whole flight and paid several hundreds bucks for this. 

Adobo and MS are of course very innovative....but they need to acknowledge that at least a apology is needed AND they need to communicate clearly this is acknowledged by them and work is in progress. 

I am losing patience ...(That's my issue I know.....) But I AM a paying customer as many of you are. 

And their forums are full of complains.....

Going back to 2020 is also a work around....but that's not the right thing to do...because I have paid for a sim in a released state and it should not contain so many issues. 

The issue list is way to long....

Regards,

Marcus P.

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6 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Two things I would recommend:

  1. Make sure your rolling cache is set large enough.  Probably at least 32 GB, and even larger if you can afford it.  Repeat the flight twice, and then note down whether this stuttering and audio popping occurs only on the first flight, or if it occurs on the first and second flight. If it occurs on the first flight but not the second flight, then it's because the area you are flying in hasn't been cached before in the rolling cache, so it could be an internet connection issue with the MSFS server.  If it occurs on both flights, then it's probably not an internet connection issue, because on the second flight, that area that you flew should have been cached already in the rolling cache.
  2. Turn the graphics settings in MSFS 2024 down to the minimum and repeat the flight.  Yes, it won't be a fun flight, but it's for testing purposes only. If you turn your MSFS 2024 settings down to the minimum, and the stuttering and audio popping stop, it's because your system is struggling to handle the graphics levels that you have set. But at least you know this is the issue, and you can devise a plan to best deal with it.

Testing = a Adobo Job and Beta tester as well 

We talk about a released product ..I want to use it and not test it. 

But I understand you trying to help and point into some directions where issues are common. 

Just this is not something we paying customers should do...

 

Regards,

Marcus P.

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Not sure you tried this yet or even if it is already on for you but try turning "Traffic Airport Quality" to off if you have it set to anything else.

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