7 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

I know. But then it shouldn't be a huge surprise not achieving satisfactory performance. I was using a 6900XT until this year and was always aware that this is not sufficient to run MSFS 2024 with everything on Ultra. Do people really expect to run MSFS 2024 on 4 year old hardware with everything maxed out?

Besides the specs provided by Microsoft/Asobo, I have a 5080 and trying to use high settings... not ultra.

But again, lower settings increase the framerate but the stuttering on the ground and at takeoff remains, regardless of the VRAM available. Along with a ton of bugs that who knows when and if will be fixed.

Edited July 11, 2025Jul 11 by MrFuzzy

45 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

but the stuttering on the ground and at takeoff remains, regardless of the VRAM available.

I still think that MSFS 2024 has a VRAM problem. I had first bought a 5080 and had the same problems. Now much better with twice the VRAM on the 5090. VRAM is still a big issue in MSFS 2024. The stuttering already starts before the VRAM is fully exhausted.

9 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

I still think that MSFS 2024 has a VRAM problem. I had first bought a 5080 and had the same problems. Now much better with twice the VRAM on the 5090. VRAM is still a big issue in MSFS 2024. The stuttering already starts before the VRAM is fully exhausted.

The VRAM message only appears for me if I have Raytraced Shadows enabled. And, in SU3, it doesn't seem to affect performance even when I do see it. However, I leave it off as there is so little visual difference. Try switching it off and see if your issues are still there.

Edited July 11, 2025Jul 11 by jarmstro

When I updated to the 9070XT from the 4070 Super I was shocked and floored to discover that I still had all the stuttering issues. 

What fixed it (basically completely) for me was disabling Rebar in the Bios. This caused the sim to use less vram and have more available. I've noticed minimal to zero stuttering since, even when flying the A350 (which is closing up on the limit if flying from iniBuilds Dubai for example). 

That being said, I keep my TLOD at 100 for airliners, I can bump it to 400 with no issues if flying GA, but such is the nature of this sim. 

100% they have VRAM optimization issues. Not only that but there's not content validation pipeline in place either at the marketplace or the sim level to ensure 3rd party airplanes and airport adhere to strict technical budgets, so some planes (PMDG) run very well, while others (A350) are very demanding because they felt the need to model every screw in some panel you'll never look at, at the back of the plane. Same with airports. There's much more work left to be done, and honestly I don't think they'll ever fix it for msfs2024.

 

As to people who think it's normal to need a 5090 to run this at high-end settings without issues, I have to disagree. Only 7% of people have more than 12GB of VRAM, 1% (or less) have more than 16GB.

It's on the developer to make sure the game runs well for the intended audience. And their published requirements list makes no sense if you're flying anything but the default cessna, which kinda tells me they never really gave it too much testing beyond that. Because in the end, when I upgraded to 9070XT I was certain it was going to be enough based on the perf I was seeing and the published requirements. At what point it's not my job anymore to keep spending money for their game to run properly on fairly high-end hardware ?

Edited July 11, 2025Jul 11 by SAS274

3 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

Leave FS2024 alone if you fly airliners, trust me...

95% of what I fly in 2024 is airliners. It's fine. Better than 2020 was for me.

Edited July 11, 2025Jul 11 by Tuskin38

39 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

I still think that MSFS 2024 has a VRAM problem. I had first bought a 5080 and had the same problems. Now much better with twice the VRAM on the 5090. VRAM is still a big issue in MSFS 2024. The stuttering already starts before the VRAM is fully exhausted.

On both my pc’s I do not have any VRAM issues. Using 4080 and 4090.

But I am using the Prosim 738.

I also don't have any VRAM issues. Performance, whatever it is, is a distant memory since my RTX 4090. On the other hand, stuttering is a constant problem on both versions and on both Betas regardless of the graphics card used and I also have a lot more trouble with FS24's ALL BLUE visual above the cloud layer. It's not very successful during the day, but it really brings out the colors of the sky at sunrise and sunset.

"I see life in blue"

Biggest cause of stuttering for me was Using GSX Seated Passengers, Once I disabled that stutters are very rare now.

17 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

Biggest cause of stuttering for me was Using GSX Seated Passengers, Once I disabled that stutters are very rare now.

GSX people in general seem to cause stutters, just boarding and deboarding makes the game stutter for me until it finishes.

Edited July 11, 2025Jul 11 by Tuskin38

24 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

GSX people in general seem to cause stutters, just boarding and deboarding makes the game stutter for me until it finishes.

True, I've slimmed mine down to where I really only use the pushback function.

Regarding the too blue sky : this is a Pilots view ( YT : Vlieg Piet )

Above the Netherlands a few days ago.

On 7/9/2025 at 10:39 PM, vbazillio said:

I don't know what you mean by "fully integrated", but you can - I think since the early SU3 Beta - change the settings directly from inside the sim. And I didn't have installed in addition any others freeware or tools to support my Tobii in MSFS2024.

 

 

That's what I mean by it! Thanks!

13 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

Besides the specs provided by Microsoft/Asobo, I have a 5080 and trying to use high settings... not ultra.

I think it's worth noting the specs provided by MS/Asobo are for the base sim with no add-ons. I'm not saying there isn't likely some optimization that can still be done, but there have been several posts here lately mentioning how horribly optimized certain airports are that are "2020/2024 compatible", and I'm not sure if that also includes some "bespoke" airports that were created by 3rd parties for Asobo.

1 hour ago, Funky D said:

I think it's worth noting the specs provided by MS/Asobo are for the base sim with no add-ons. I'm not saying there isn't likely some optimization that can still be done, but there have been several posts here lately mentioning how horribly optimized certain airports are that are "2020/2024 compatible", and I'm not sure if that also includes some "bespoke" airports that were created by 3rd parties for Asobo.

All my considerations are for the base sim. Empty community folder.

"Bespoke" airports that are part of the base packages fall under the responsibility of Asobo/Microsoft.

Edited July 12, 2025Jul 12 by MrFuzzy

On 7/9/2025 at 3:21 PM, Sky_Pilot071 said:

You need to retire and leave the world behind.

dd

 

I retired 10 years ago after a 40 year airline career. Last gig was A330. I thought I was over airplanes and airports but now find myself reliving my career through MSFS 2024 and loving it. Can’t wait for the su3 release.