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EHAM Major Winter Storm. You wouldn’t know it in MSFS2024

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For x-plane 12 I use Xpsnow. Works well.

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  • Yeah, this stupid snow coverage bug ruins the use of live weather throughout two thirds of the year in the Alps. As Asobo is a french company, I do really wonder if they ever use real live in their ow

  • Zangoose
    Zangoose

    I think the sim has an issue if it doesn't know about snow on the ground and its not currently snowing. I tried it in Manchester yesterday when there was a live stream of snow being on the ground but

  • DD_Arthur
    DD_Arthur

    That's boring, hackneyed nonsense. 

1 hour ago, Wothan said:

If You have Active sky, You can set it to passive mode.

 

Here is the description of AS passive mode:

In MSFS2024, Active Sky's Passive Mode lets the default simulator handle the visual weather depiction (clouds, precipitation), while Active Sky (AS) injects its enhanced atmospheric data, providing realistic wind, turbulence (Active Air Effects), temperature, and other conditions, bridging the gap between default Live Weather and full AS control for a more immersive experience without overriding MSFS visuals. It's ideal for getting detailed weather effects like thermals and clear air turbulence that default weather lacks, while still enjoying MSFS's native graphics. 

Also it will add better snow coverage.

I’ve been considering this. I prefer MSFS visuals re weather fronts etc, however keen to have been “active air effects” like cloud turbulence.  I wasn’t aware it would improve snow coverage too - I’m in the North East of England on the coast and we’re covered in snow - alas not a drop in th sim.   I don’t own Active Sky (yet) 

18 minutes ago, Piotr007 said:

For x-plane 12 I use Xpsnow. Works well.

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1 hour ago, Wothan said:

If You have Active sky, You can set it to passive mode.

 

Here is the description of AS passive mode:

In MSFS2024, Active Sky's Passive Mode lets the default simulator handle the visual weather depiction (clouds, precipitation), while Active Sky (AS) injects its enhanced atmospheric data, providing realistic wind, turbulence (Active Air Effects), temperature, and other conditions, bridging the gap between default Live Weather and full AS control for a more immersive experience without overriding MSFS visuals. It's ideal for getting detailed weather effects like thermals and clear air turbulence that default weather lacks, while still enjoying MSFS's native graphics. 

Also it will add better snow coverage.

This is quite interesting. Almost a case of best of both worlds.

Eric 

 

 

Here at middle of Sweden MSFS2024 live weather show the snow almost perfect, with a delay in snow covering approx 24hours

not sure if it need to be 0.05m not sure 0.02 is visible, this winter the snow came late her they get more in the south we have approx only 10cm now but get the cold instead -17c today , this time of the year its normal with 50-70cm here and it disipear in april.

Edited by westman

1 minute ago, westman said:

Here at middle of Sweden MSFS2024 live weather show the snow almost perfect, with a delay in snow covering approx 24hours

not sure if it need to be 0.05m not sure 0.02 is visible, this winter the snow came late her they get more in the south we have approx only 10cm now but get the cold instead -17c today , this time of the year its normal with 50-70cm here and it disipear in apeil.

Just finished an EDDK to ESNN flight. No snow at all to be seen in Germany and Denmark, but at ESNN there was plenty of it. As suggested by a user in this thread I used Active Sky in passive mode but that didn't help with regard to the amount or non-amount of snow

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I’ve always wondered if the way asobo chose to render the snow depth in the sim is the actual problem. 
 

example: metro blue pushes 3inch snow depth information to the sim, the sim receives it and throws out 3 inches of snow depth information to be rendered into the sim. Unfortunately asobo makes 3 inches of snow “look” like barely anything. As a result, it “looks” completely incorrect. 
 

This happens a lot in the Midwest Illinois area. We get half a foot in real life and in the sim it looks like a dusting. The area in the some didn’t get covered in snow fully until we get over a foot or so accumulated snow in real life. 
 

This theory doesn’t explain the alps and mountains having too much snow though.
 

 

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It IS the resolution problem, they even once acknowledge it in a Q&A session, but done nothing about it. Even worse, because of their idiotic bug reporting and voting system, the snow coverage bug is only listed as a MSFS2020 bug with several hundred votes but doesnt even appear on the lifetime bug list of 2024 because of that. And if you open another thread, it is merged into the 2020 one. Ridiculous. 

Bummer that AS passive mode obviously also doesnt do the trick, this would have been THE reason for me to get it.

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From the reports here I also wonder if there is a geographical element. I fly a lot in Canada and the northern part of the United States, and I have found snow coverage to be generally very good. In fact over the holidays I commented to myself how accurate it seems to have become. For example, our traditional snow belt definitely has more snow than the Greater Toronto Area and the snow gradually reduces down toward Washington DC.   I live here and I drive these areas a good deal as well and snow has seemed completely fine to me There is a bit of a delay between the time of a significant storm and snow on the ground in the sim, but it is usually there the next day. 

I am just happy to be out of those FSX-P3D days of a coat of white paint being applied every year on the same day.

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4 hours ago, chapstick said:

Put yourself in MS/Asobo's shoes, and ask yourself, "Will improved weather grow their console userbase?"

The answer is No. 

Since the weather is the most fundamental element of flight the answer is yes.

 

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

It IS the resolution problem, they even once acknowledge it in a Q&A session, but done nothing about it.

Because it's in the hands of the data provider, not Asobo.

  

3 hours ago, Piotr007 said:

For x-plane 12 I use Xpsnow. Works well.

Well good thing this thread isn't about X-Plane.

Edited by Tuskin38

Whoever makes the snow coverage maps, not MS / ASOBO, is spot on in North America where I fly.

Actually most of America should be snow free after the 25C weather system blows through.

dd

Edited by Sky_Pilot071

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

Because it's in the hands of the data provider, not Asobo.

It is not. Meteoblue HAS the higher resolution maps, just zoom in on their official homepage. Perfectly fine with valleys not covered in snow. 

So it IS about what data Asobo gets from meteoblue. If they would want the higher res, they could have it. I guess it is a matter of cost...

Greetings, Chris

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It's something else they broke with the SU7 (2020) fiasco, before that if it snowed on the ground I'd see it in the game. Was by no means perfect but it worked well enough, but then that update came along a trashed live weather all over with the untested update with METAR addition. We're still paying the price today with issues brought on with that update, one day they'll eradicate them all.

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2 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Since the weather is the most fundamental element of flight the answer is yes.

 

The audience MS wants to attract doesn’t know or care. 

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