Still isn't enough to win back my support of Marketplace.

For far too long some of the good honest developers were put in some sort of vetting limbo with Marketplace approval.

Meanwhile the puppy mill quick cash grab content developers have had years of being prioritized over others.

In no way low quality low effort cash grab developers like LivToAir, Diemos, nor SimFederation should have been given vetting approval to Marketplace before devs like MamuDesigns and others who went years before finally being approved.

The game has been rigged far too long....MScenery should have never been approved in the first place. That would only take one competent human being review to determine such obvious common sense.💡

1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said:

Isn't scenery creations the same people

Not sure about that. The one that confuses me is if MSFSscenerybuilders and FSXscenery are the same payware shop. They tend to hit a lot of regional and smaller airports that don't get attention, but quality varies widely.

59 minutes ago, Funky D said:

MS/Asobo really need to follow this up with new marketplace rules: No AI-enhanced product images and no review manipulation.

It needs to go further.

There needs to be some basic level of realism/functionality.

Like, I’m even (mostly) okay with the Captain Sim antics because at least they’re (mostly) honest and upfront about it. But the mscenery dreck is obviously substandard.

Heck, I’m not even sure Deimos is up to par (?)

And really, cheap rentals should be absolutely mandatory. If an addon has a very low conversion rate to full purchase, that could even automatically log a flag for investigation

and so on.

Edited yesterday at 01:14 AM1 day by UrgentSiesta

2 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

There needs to be some basic level of realism

No

That took way too long. May nothing like that ever happen again.

3 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

There needs to be some basic level of realism/functionality.

I am fine with "unrealistic" products as long as they're marketed correctly and priced fairly. Plenty of casual users want to fly simple planes that look nice... with MScenery they were getting an overpriced product with flashy marketing pics and ended up sitting in a cockpit that looked like it came out of Minecraft. It would be nice if they added a marketplace filter for realism so the more arcade-like products could be filtered out.

The 5 star rating was crazy.- Such should not be possible. There's another developer, as fas as I know, that should be removed. He imports existing gltf, slightly modifies and uploads.

I wonder if MS will do anything 'nice' with their share of the profits.

There is another 20 or 30 devs need to be chucked out; if they want to declare the Market Place a place simmer can thrust. At the moment is well below that line.

5 hours ago, Mike44 said:

The 5 star rating was crazy.- Such should not be possible. There's another developer, as fas as I know, that should be removed. He imports existing gltf, slightly modifies and uploads.

Lol; if that is allowed to happen by the Market Place than; everything goes; I wonder who selected all those genius devs ?

7 hours ago, Funky D said:

I am fine with "unrealistic" products as long as they're marketed correctly and priced fairly. Plenty of casual users want to fly simple planes that look nice... with MScenery they were getting an overpriced product with flashy marketing pics and ended up sitting in a cockpit that looked like it came out of Minecraft. It would be nice if they added a marketplace filter for realism so the more arcade-like products could be filtered out.

Arcade-like products are not the main issue, as you said. If there is a market for them, that's fine.

But MScenery was claiming their product was 'realistic' and was using deceptive preview imagery as well. They really need to nip any of this false advertising and zero-substance product in the bud

Any idea which country this “developer” was based in ? I’m just curious that’s all so no virtue signalling required, I’m just asking an innocent question out of curiosity

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by jon b

1 hour ago, Nandengo12 said:

But MScenery was claiming their product was 'realistic' and was using deceptive preview imagery as well. They really need to nip any of this false advertising and zero-substance product in the bud

False advertising is par for the course across the entire internet, not just on the MS Marketplace. Look at all of the ridiculous "stories" that you see on YouTube and elsewhere about how certain famous people have aged/died/been abducted by aliens, or really stupid stuff like "Voyager 1 has turned around, and is heading back to Earth" 🙄The internet is literally bathing in lies.

1 hour ago, jon b said:

Any idea which country this “developer” was based in ? I’m just curious that’s all so no virtue signalling required, I’m just asking an innocent question out of curiosity

What difference does it make?

Personally I don't see why people are rejoicing on this as a win. There's nothing stopping mscenery from rebranding and doing the same thing. A better post would've been a revision of requirements on posting on the marketplace, descriptions that accurately depict the product, pictures that actually portray the product. If submissions to the marketplace can't adhere then they are denied.

Furthermore reviews and ratings on products should be verified or at-least the review should contain some information, how long has the reviewer flown the plane (Someone who flew for 5 minutes is not someone's opinion im going to listen to), what are their PC specs etc. Similar to Steam's review system.

Mscenery is simply the symptom of a poorly managed marketplace and banning them is a bandaid measure to make simmers happy temporarily. It doesn't fix things.

Sadly the same developer is still on there as Scenery Creation with the same bot postings using AI