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FS9, still alive?

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So I've been away from FS world for a while, mostly due to having a PC from the stoneage. So I'm building a new box with i7 in it and some other goodies. Just wanted to check if a lot of you still choose FS9 over FSX with high end PC's? I have an option of going with either one, just can't make up my mind, never flew in FSX and I still hear negative opinions about it. Is it worth the frustration?To be honest I never even experienced FS9 to the fullest due to lack of proper hardware and I'm leaning more towards sticking with it.

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fs9 is certainly alive and well, especially among complex airliner users (we tend to care a bit less about the world outside of airports). That is not to say there are no FSX airliner drivers, far from it. We're also still plentiful enough that new products are still coming out fs9 compatible. If I were mainly GA though, and 'new' again like you, I'd try FSX first in a heartbeat - it is fundamentally superior if you can run it to your satisfaction. Why not post your specs and have FSX users give you an idea what to expect.

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Definately fs9 for me.I have a high end system but running the PMDG 747 with activesky, a highd etail add on airport, world of ai and just flight traffic files , ultimate terrain, radar contact, trackir, aismooth, flight environment and ground environment all at 40+ fps mostly is AMAZING!!!!!!RichyP.S I know some of those addons don't hurt fps but I thought I'd list them anyway :(

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I use FS9 due to my two year old PC, but even after I get a new i7 machine later this year, I will stick with FS9 because of all the addons I have. FS9 looks excellent with many of the addons that are available and I can use it with full AA and AF with almost every detail option turned up to the max.

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So I've been away from FS world for a while, mostly due to having a PC from the stoneage. So I'm building a new box with i7 in it and some other goodies. Just wanted to check if a lot of you still choose FS9 over FSX with high end PC's? I have an option of going with either one, just can't make up my mind, never flew in FSX and I still hear negative opinions about it. Is it worth the frustration?To be honest I never even experienced FS9 to the fullest due to lack of proper hardware and I'm leaning more towards sticking with it.
Wait til' you experience FS9 with your new hardware. My machine has a Q8200, 8 Gigs Ram, is running Vista 64, and a low end GT120 with a Gig of Ram. FS9 runs just perfect and looks better than ever now that I can run with 16x aniso filtering.But I also splurged and got FS-X, and while it isn't as smooth as FS-9 it's no slideshow either if one sets it up with reasonable settings. If I pick a mid-sized city, like Reno, and unlock the framerates, FS-X is hitting 50-60 fps on the ground and 100+ fps in the air. I don't have everything maxed, but the adjustments I have made are visually at least twice as good as what I've seen in FS9. The only frustration I had with FS-X is the first system I picked up during the holidays died a week later, seemingly to a motherboard or HD controller failure. Ironically I got a better computer for the same price (although there's been some arguments online about the Q8200 vs. Q6600, I paid attention to performance on the first system and in one instance, the Q8200 system has about a 15 pct. improvement). That said, there's just something about FS-9 I won't give up. Flights are so smooth with it, and while the ground isn't as sharp at low altitude, for flying heavy iron it's hard to tell a difference with the 16x aniso enabled. FS-X is becoming my sim for VFR flight and play (Tileproxy VFR, and the air races and other missions for play), while FS-9 is there when I am in the mood to fly in the flight levels. Tileproxy and FS-X are nothing short of amazing, take a look at the screenshots forum and search on my avsim id to see what I mean.Anyway, that's my two cents, I am quite happy the systems needed to run FS-X are finally arriving without one having to declare bankruptcy. And I am happy that despite seeing FS-X, FS9 does not look as obsolete as some tried to insinuate.Regards,John

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FS9 is not only alive but "alive and kickin"! :( Most site poles I have seen still put the majority of simmers using FS2004. But who says you have to choose? If your new rig is good enough to fly FSX, it certainly will do circles around FS9. Get both - enjoy both for each of their benefits. Clutch

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My rig handles FSX well enough, but I'm still an FS9 diehard. I've tweaked FS9 and added many extras to the point that I'm so happy with it, FSX is no longer taking up space on my HDDs.Bob

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My rig handles FSX well enough, but I'm still an FS9 diehard. I've tweaked FS9 and added many extras to the point that I'm so happy with it, FSX is no longer taking up space on my HDDs.Bob
If you look at the user polls, a very large percentage of people are saying they still use FS9 as their primary sim.However, when I look at what my customers are ordering, the majority are buying FSX version products now.Hard to explain the contradiction.Cheers,

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So I've been away from FS world for a while, mostly due to having a PC from the stoneage. So I'm building a new box with i7 in it and some other goodies. Just wanted to check if a lot of you still choose FS9 over FSX with high end PC's? I have an option of going with either one, just can't make up my mind, never flew in FSX and I still hear negative opinions about it. Is it worth the frustration?To be honest I never even experienced FS9 to the fullest due to lack of proper hardware and I'm leaning more towards sticking with it.
I would suspect if you posted the same question on the FSX board, you would get differing opinions than you may find here. :( Personally, I scrubbed FS9 off my computer many months ago, never to return, and my computer does not come close to yours in performance, I'm sure.No regrets.

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If I wanted to I could switch to FSX, but I have so many add ons (most will not work in FSX) and tons of AI. So FS9 will be staying on my computer for a long time.

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FS9 all the way for me......but that is because I know exactly what I want from my sim and FSX simply cannot supply it.I will be buying a new high end rig just for Win-XP and FS9.What I would do is decide what kind of aircraft I like to fly.( have a look to see which sim they are available for).Then what areas I like to fly in (for scenery availability)Just these two questions alone would lead me to FS9 but I have far greater reasons to use FS9 only....but that's just me. :(

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My approach is very similar to edetroit above. Is FS9 still alive? Oh yes very much so! It's a mature and stable sim (don't forget to install version 9.1) and as a result has mountains of fine addons to enhance it and it runs beautifully on today's hardware. :(

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If you look at the user polls, a very large percentage of people are saying they still use FS9 as their primary sim. However, when I look at what my customers are ordering, the majority are buying FSX version products now. Hard to explain the contradiction.
Because FS9 simmers already have all they need to be happy in the sim! :( Best regards,Rafal

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Very cool, thanks for the input guys. I decided to start things off with FS9 and XP, especially since I also have many add-ons for it. I'll enjoy it (finally, lol) for a few months and I'll give Vista and FSX a shot.Moving from P4 2.8GHz and the AGP to i7, 74G Raptor, GTX260 and 6Gb 1600 SDRAM should make a difference or at least I'm hoping for one.The parts didn't arrive yet but I'm stoked, big time now. :)

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I suspect I'm in a small minority (maybe I'm the only one left?) of strictly GA fliers who prefer FS9 for low-and-slow flying. While FSX is great for GA flying -- I have it installed as well -- I rarely fire it up for a few reasons:1) Performance: 3D stereoscopic glasses have become a flight simming staple for me -- the immersion 3D glasses offer in conjunction with a fresnel lens is unreal. While I get satisfactory performance in FSX, 3D glasses effectively halve your frame rates. As much as I like FSX's high-res textures, the fluid 3D environment that can be achieved in FS9 wins out in terms of immersion.2) Flight Ontario: Most of my flying is done in the Golden Horseshoe region of southern Ontario, and Flight Ontario (flightontario.com) has released many great freeware scenery packages of the Greater Toronto Area for FS9 that are miles ahead of what's available for FSX. 3) Developers: After all these years, developers are still providing exciting things for FS9 (which says something about the number of simmers still using FS9). I'm really looking forward to Real Environment Xtreme and Carenado's new C-172.

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If you look at the user polls, a very large percentage of people are saying they still use FS9 as their primary sim.However, when I look at what my customers are ordering, the majority are buying FSX version products now.Hard to explain the contradiction.Cheers,
It's not a contradiction. You're not offering any new FS9 software. I have both sims on my computer, But I perfer FS9 at this point. What customers are ordering are mostly software that can be used in both sims. Smart developers know if they want to keep $$$ rolling in, they must do it that way. The only way I will purchase FSX addons is if there is a FS9 version also. I perfer Commercial and private jets in and out of major airports with sliders to the right. So FS9 is my preferance. FSX is excellent for low and slow sight seeing. Sometimes I'm in the mood for that.Bill M

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So I've been away from FS world for a while, mostly due to having a PC from the stoneage. So I'm building a new box with i7 in it and some other goodies. Just wanted to check if a lot of you still choose FS9 over FSX with high end PC's? I have an option of going with either one, just can't make up my mind, never flew in FSX and I still hear negative opinions about it. Is it worth the frustration?To be honest I never even experienced FS9 to the fullest due to lack of proper hardware and I'm leaning more towards sticking with it.
Drumcode,If you fly "high and fast" then FS9 is the best. If you prefer "low and slow" then FSX is probably better.Having built what I considered a high-end PC 12 months ago I was disappointed in FSX performance. In comparison FS9 even with 3rd party complex airports like JFK or Heathrow are giving me frame rates of 30+ and 50+ in less complex areas is the norm. Finally the hardware has caught up with the software.I plan to stay with FS9 until Windows7 / FSXI is out and then consider my options. But given I fly the 737, 777 and Concorde I don't see any benefit in moving to FSX and the resultant frame drop down to 12 at EGLL is a major disappointment.Hope that helps.

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I'm still running FS9 too. I bought a computer last year specifically for running FS9 and the simulator. All I added was a decent video card and a second power supply to run it. Hardware for FS9 is cheaper than dirt and FS9 is still a good program.The last computer I had ran FS9 like a slide show if I was in a 3rd-party scenery area while flying the DF727.Hardware always seems to lag a new FS release and my system at the time was no different. I now have a system that can run FS9 to it's full potential with any add-on I fly to and under any conditions. And with those add-ons, it's difficult to tell from FSX in certain areas anyway.FS9 going to be flying on my simulator computers for a long time come.Cockpitphotos1017.jpg

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Honestly I use both sims, I do I mainly use fs9 since there's alot of sceneys that wont work right in fsx and some other add ons. I fly my airliners in fs9 big airports big cities :( good frame rates. I like to use fsx for flying to places like Hawaii, and small islands, some missions, vfr, from time to time. since the ground textuers and montains look better. and fs9 with a huge list of add ons freeware and payware.

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FS9 still alive? You bet, and that's why we are supporting it ;)Cheers.

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I do have to admit, I am one of those people who has 3 separate hard drives...one for FS9, one for FSX and one for storage. However, I have tons of addons for FS9(aircraft and sceneries) and only 3 addon aircraft in FSX(no sceneries installed). I spend 95% of my sim time using FS9. Because many of the products out there cost so much $$ to popluate FSX, I decided to leave FSX alone until prices begin to come down. Sure, I am lured by the very nice wx generating programs for FSX like ASX, FEX,etc, but I won't pay the steep prices for them. Over time I have spent ALOT of $$ sprucing up FS9...hardware,software,etc, but I could easily double that price tag sprucing up FSX along with having a rig that would run it quite smoothly.

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You bet it is alive. Very much so.Just got a new i7 rig with Vista 64 and FS9 was the first thing that went into it...I will get to FSX in month or so...when I get FS9 reconfigured the way I want it :-)At this point in time it would be : (IMHO)VFR - FSXIFR - FS9Heavy metal - FS9Complex scenery with lots of traffic - FS9Have fun. I certainly am. :-)

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I have and run both, but keep coming back to FS9 as I've spent several hundred dollars on payware add-ons for it over the years and it makes FSX seem kinda bland without them.

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There's only about 3 things that I actually like of FSX over FS9-1) The high detail ground textures2) Moving traffic around the world3) Im still searching!Seriously, there's some nice things about it but for now FS9 is what I spend 95% of my time in using my full size LJ45 sim. It's just a much better performer and I feel much more like Im flying than with FSX which has some strange performace issues even with a great system that I just built 5 months ago.It's definately still alive and I am still buying stuff for it every few weeks software-wise.

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You have a full scale LJ45 Sim?!?!?! Where's the screenies??? oh please-oh-please-oh please :(

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