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I've finally switched to using VC mode

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In preparation for the upcoming 737NGX, after viewing those beautiful VC previews, I thought perhaps it is finally time to make the change. We are at a level now where the quality of the VC is as good or perhaps even better than any static 2D image.I've always been a big fan of 2D panels, but from now on I will use the VC. I done a few test flights in the 747 and MD-11, and I have to say, it is definitely a much more immersive experience.So yay another VC user :-)

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In preparation for the upcoming 737NGX, after viewing those beautiful VC previews, I thought perhaps it is finally time to make the change. We are at a level now where the quality of the VC is as good or perhaps even better than any static 2D image.I've always been a big fan of 2D panels, but from now on I will use the VC. I done a few test flights in the 747 and MD-11, and I have to say, it is definitely a much more immersive experience.So yay another VC user :-)
What clinched it for me when I switched was when I discovered that holding the space bar down, then moving the mouse and scrolling the mouse wheel manipulated the view. I never knew this before. Now moving around the VC for me is as close to having a TrackIR as I can get.Without this very simple way of moving the view around, I'd agree with all those 2D-panel-or-nothing guys. The way mine is set up is that on my main monitor it's always the VC. Then I set up the secondary 2D panels on the left monitor (overhead, throttle, comms).

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Speaking of which, is there an easier solution for panning around?When I am hand flying it is problematic for me to let go of the joystick, hold space and then use my mouse. I don't like the idea of pressing shift-o each time either.Ideally I would like to enable/disable pan mode with a mouse click instead of using the keyboard, is that possible?

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Speaking of which, is there an easier solution for panning around?When I am hand flying it is problematic for me to let go of the joystick, hold space and then use my mouse. I don't like the idea of pressing shift-o each time either.Ideally I would like to enable/disable pan mode with a mouse click instead of using the keyboard, is that possible?
There's "View track/pan (toggle)" in controls/views, You can try it.rolleyes.gif

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Guys, Guys, Guys,Do yourselves a HUGE favor and invest in a Track IR by Naturalpoint. If you haven't seen one on action, go to the Naturalpoint.com website and check out the video. I REFUSE to fly any simulation without it! And you'll wonder how you ever did without it too!Terry Swindle (realworld airline pilot)

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Guys, Guys, Guys,Do yourselves a HUGE favor and invest in a Track IR by Naturalpoint. If you haven't seen one on action, go to the Naturalpoint.com website and check out the video. I REFUSE to fly any simulation without it! And you'll wonder how you ever did without it too!Terry Swindle (realworld airline pilot)
BTW, for those of you discovering VCs, in addition to holding down the space bar and moving the mouse to pan, you can also roll your mouse wheel to zoom in and out while holding the space bar, and in addition, Control+Space resets your view.

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What clinched it for me when I switched was when I discovered that holding the space bar down, then moving the mouse and scrolling the mouse wheel manipulated the view.
Same, since FSX I can never go back.

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For those of you that have Logitech hardware. You can use their setpoint software and assign a mouse button to the space bar. It frees up one hand to stay on the yoke. Works great for me.

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I was a convert when beta testing the JS41 and now the 2D panels seem retro. Once you find your favorite way to pan/zoom it becomes a lot of fun.

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There's "View track/pan (toggle)" in controls/views, You can try it.rolleyes.gif
I'm using a Saitek X52 and have one of the hat swtiches assigned to Pan, that why I can look around using just my thumb while keeping my hands on the controls. Its worked well for me for years, plus when combined with EZdok and its extra camera features it makes it really easy to look around the VC if you assign the proper cameras/views to you control button on your yoke,stick, or throttle controls.

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This is a good thread, I have been struggling with panning around the VC in FSX comfortably since I installed it. Alot of good suggestions. As a long time VC user and an avid Active Camera fan I find myself getting alot more out of FS9 sometimes just because I'm SO used to Active Camera. I installed Walk and follow but it really isnt the same and it messes with the eyepoint in the MD-11 horribly. Every flight starts on the ground next to the nosegear and I have to move up thru the floor and position myself where I'm supposed to be on every flight. Horrible!

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For now what I've done is assigned the pan mode function to a button on my joystick, this way I can keep my hand on the joystick at all times and use my other hand to operate around the cockpit with the mouse.This seems to be a good enough solution for now, but I think I may end up purchasing TrackIR, as that is probably the most 'realistic' solution.

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You can also improve your view within the VC:[DISPLAY]WideViewAspect=True

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I have a Track IR5 but am still trying to get used to using it with 3d cockpits. Seems a must with the apparent quality of the NGX.I guess it is just a case of practise makes perfect. Does anyone have any settings suggestions that make flying airliners easier? I've tried a few of the profiles but still feel they need tweaking.Regards

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Benji,Try something like this.Sorry about the quality but I'm no good on photoshop.You've just got to tweak around, I use different profiles for different games, this one is pretty tame. I tried to upload the xml file for you to use but it said I wasn't allowed to upload those kind of files. Helpful.Dan.

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I'm using a Saitek X52 and have one of the hat swtiches assigned to Pan, that why I can look around using just my thumb while keeping my hands on the controls. Its worked well for me for years, plus when combined with EZdok and its extra camera features it makes it really easy to look around the VC if you assign the proper cameras/views to you control button on your yoke,stick, or throttle controls.
As cmpbellsjc says, the combination of TrackIR 4 or 5, EZdok camera add-on, and the "zoom in/zoom out" FSX key presses make navigating VC a snap. It's quick to set up and I found it quickly became intuitive to use after just a bit of us....can't imagine flying without these now. I have CH gear and have assigned buttons to the zoom view function and the "global disable" for EZdok to make easier the employment of VC switches and dials.

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So yay another VC user :-)
Neato. Remember that you don't have to use all VC though - I still use a few popups, like GNS430W and FMS popups if in airliners.
I guess it is just a case of practise makes perfect. Does anyone have any settings suggestions that make flying airliners easier? I've tried a few of the profiles but still feel they need tweaking.
Yeah, try the "Seth - Flight" profile over at the TIR forums:(2nd post in this thread)http://forum.naturalpoint.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=38618#Post38618TIR5 upset me the first few weeks, until I found this profile :Applause:Also, on occasion you'll have a need for the pause function, just to flick a switch with a small clickspot

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Thanks all.Will give these a go ...and keep practising!

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Ryan makes a good point about combining 2D & VC, I fly 100% in VC with TrackIR but also undock the FMC, EICAS etc to spare monitors and it works great. For that reason I hope developers will never fully get rid of 2D panels as the pop up's are quite useful.

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Ryan makes a good point about combining 2D & VC, I fly 100% in VC with TrackIR but also undock the FMC, EICAS etc to spare monitors and it works great. For that reason I hope developers will never fully get rid of 2D panels as the pop up's are quite useful.
Inspired by a thread in the forum over at Vatsim, I purchased an app for iPad that enabled me to use the iPad as a monitor. You can then drag the FMC over to the iPad and since it has a touch screen, use your fingers to operate the FMC! Only problem for me is that 1) the app can only enable the monitor when MSFS is in windowed mode and 2) I can't at the same time use Noas EXCELLENT app FS kneeboard which gives me instantenous access to all the US enroute and airport charts. Kudos to you Noah - I see you are active in this thread! :D

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I am sorry to say that I am an ex TrackIR5 user. I have 2 PCs, one with just FSX/PMDG744X and 2 screens, 1 for the cockpit and the second for the overheads. The second PC runs ASX, Squawkbox, VA client, and maps on a further 2 screens.I found that TrcakIR5 made me dizzy because, when looking away from the cockpit screen to the other screens and to my physical desktop, TrackIR displayed crazy images because I was beyond its boundaries of the main screen.Now I am a very contented VC pilot.

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Thanks Krister, glad you enjoy it. I'm looking forward to the NGX as much s everyone else. In fact im developing another similar app geared towards real world pilots and my only goal for release is "before the ngx" so I focus all my time on flying the ngx when it gets released lol.

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I am sorry to say that I am an ex TrackIR5 user. I have 2 PCs, one with just FSX/PMDG744X and 2 screens, 1 for the cockpit and the second for the overheads. The second PC runs ASX, Squawkbox, VA client, and maps on a further 2 screens.I found that TrcakIR5 made me dizzy because, when looking away from the cockpit screen to the other screens and to my physical desktop, TrackIR displayed crazy images because I was beyond its boundaries of the main screen.Now I am a very contented VC pilot.
Richard - You need to assign the TrackIR smoothing and pause buttons to your yoke, if I'm not using TrackIR to look around I pause it, I dont want it following me everytime I'm looking at my other monitors checking the ECAM,FMC or downing a beer! :( I'm not surprised you feel ill if you leave it on 100% of the time!Krister - Thanks mate, you saved me a bunch of cash, I was about to buy a IPad just to use it as a touchscreen FMC, for me the sim needs to be in fullscreen, hopefully someone will come up with a fix.Regards

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Richard - You need to assign the TrackIR smoothing and pause buttons to your yoke, if I'm not using TrackIR to look around I pause it, I dont want it following me everytime I'm looking at my other monitors checking the ECAM,FMC or downing a beer! :( I'm not surprised you feel ill if you leave it on 100% of the time!Krister - Thanks mate, you saved me a bunch of cash, I was about to buy a IPad just to use it as a touchscreen FMC, for me the sim needs to be in fullscreen, hopefully someone will come up with a fix.Regards
Rob,initially I had no plans at all at buying the iPad - I figured it would just end up on the shelf. Then I read about using it to control the FMC and started thinking about other usage, like a calendar on the wall, showing photo slideshows, setting up grocery lists and synchronizing with the Iphone. Oh, and putting all the aircraft manuals on it instead of printing literally thousands of pages in colour. Playing Angry Birds in the sofa! Stargazing! Tracking ships and airplanes around the world. Noahs FS Kneeboard also saves me money since I don't have to print out all the charts and I am more inclined to fly to new, smaller airports since I have all the charts at the press of a button. Not to mention not having to check if there are new SID's and STAR's that you have to print out in order not to upset the Vatsim controllers! I do have a laptop to read charts from but it takes up too much estate.I must confess that I have reluctantly become an iPadoholic. Join me! :D

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