June 6, 201114 yr I do. I've been diagnosed with a rare disorder called Aviatory Realism Dysfunction. The doctors have no idea exactly what triggered it 6-8 months ago, but there's only one known cure and it's not on the market yet - it's still being tested...Fortunately placebos do give temporary relief from the symptoms. I've been watching real 737's on youtube & pretending they're the NGX.Do try not to read any complaints out if that, it's just my sometimes unusual sense of humor reaching out again... I think I'm suffering from the same desease you are, but mine started about a year ago. And the placebos do give some relief during the moments of great tension. Matheus Mafra
June 6, 201114 yr Wilson,I'll answer your first question since this is something that I can relate to. I am not an expert "pilot" I am what I would consider the normal sim pilot (short of being hardcore - having all the manuals, controls, gadgets etc) though I have a great idea of aircraft handling and such but when it comes to systems, I'm not an expert per se.Anyway I must stress this - what I'm about to say is ENTIRELY my own view and opinion based on my own personal self.The complexity of this add-on is basically this, it is entirely up to you how complex you want it to be. You can fly it by the book and do everything according to SOP, turn on the failures module and expect to sit throughout the entire flight from start to finish in case anything goes wrong. Or you could leave it as is, set up the FMC, program the flight plan etc, start the engines if they haven't started or you haven't loaded the aircraft in a saved panel state and go. The immersion factor in our NGX is - I'll say this, quite realistic that every time I take it up for a spin, I feel completely immersed. The VC is quite something, so is the handling qualities. It handles like the real thing so much that at the end of your session, your left with total satisfaction and feeling like this - WOW that definitely felt like an NG. I get goose bumps at the end of each flight... One BIG feature that I think many of you will like is the ability to do multi-turn trips without EVER touching the FSX menu. The other day I did a YVR-YLW-YYC-YQQ trip without ever touching the FSX menu. Took me just under 4 hours to complete and all on real-time, it was an unbelieveable trip it left me with goose bumps at the end of the trip. Anyway I hope that answers your first question, I'll leave the rest to others who are more qualified to answer.Cheers,You discuss the handing as well super duper awesome. So out of curiosity what control are you using. Yoke, pedals etc
June 6, 201114 yr Being that such attention is being focused on the 800 at this point, and the result of such attention is flight/systems behavior that is specific to that model, I'm all for selling the NGX by model variant, if the cost is reasonable. If it's going to take an incredible amount of time to model the aerodynamic differences in the flight models (however small they are) between the 600-700-800-900 variants (and don't forget the difference between winglets or no winglets), and if the majority of the work is now done on the 800, why hold up release because you have to finish the 600/700 and just sell the 800 at release day (perhaps the 900 as well), and follow that up with expansion packs for the 600 and 700 and maybe BBJ later.I used to be against charging by variant, but this is no ordinary simulation, whereas for all we know the other competitor's NG variants share the same flight model, but have different visual models. If in fact PMDG can accurately simulate each variant's nuances, I think most people can justify paying extra to have those features modeled. And we would pay for only the variants we like flying (myself, I don't see myself flying anything else except the 700 and 800).Just my 2 cents.... A.J. Domingo
June 6, 201114 yr Being that such attention is being focused on the 800 at this point, and the result of such attention is flight/systems behavior that is specific to that model, I'm all for selling the NGX by model variant, if the cost is reasonable. If it's going to take an incredible amount of time to model the aerodynamic differences in the flight models (however small they are) between the 600-700-800-900 variants (and don't forget the difference between winglets or no winglets), and if the majority of the work is now done on the 800, why hold up release because you have to finish the 600/700 and just sell the 800 at release day (perhaps the 900 as well), and follow that up with expansion packs for the 600 and 700 and maybe BBJ later.I used to be against charging by variant, but this is no ordinary simulation, whereas for all we know the other competitor's NG variants share the same flight model, but have different visual models. If in fact PMDG can accurately simulate each variant's nuances, I think most people can justify paying extra to have those features modeled. And we would pay for only the variants we like flying (myself, I don't see myself flying anything else except the 700 and 800).Just my 2 cents....At this point I believe it would cause a rather large increase in work to make each variant into a self-sufficient aircraft. I believe (and this is only my interpretation) that his comments focused on the 800 with winglets in particular because he also mentioned it being somewhat different in behavior. The others may well be tuned. Or it may just be a matter of taking the 800 VNAV code & tweaking it just a bit to match the other variants. At any rate, it won't be released until they believe it's complete & I agree with that approach. Kenneth Weir My Saitek yoke mod i7 2600k @ 4.7 8GB Gskill CAS7 2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory Win7x64
June 6, 201114 yr I wonder if the developers are on NZT, the possibilites of the NGX seem limitless :D William GreenCase: CM HAF 922 PSU: Corsair HX 1000W Mobo: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe CPU: Intel i7 2600K 4.8Ghz HT Off GPU: MSI GTX 770 Lightning 2GB RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB 2133Mhz (9-11-10-28-1T) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Soundcard: SB XtremeGamer PCI Screen: EIZO Foris FG2421 "240"hz OS: Win7 64
June 6, 201114 yr Commercial Member You discuss the handing as well super duper awesome. So out of curiosity what control are you using. Yoke, pedals etcI'm using a Saitek X45 control system, no pedals at the moment (I know, I know... I can't stand the plastic pedals and I'm waiting for the money fairy to bless me with enough money to buy the real deal). The X45 has a rudder rocker switch underneath the throttle handle, I know... its an ancient control system compared to whats out there right now. If it ain't broke, don't replace it. Eventually when I have some money, I'll buy a whole new control setup... Jason Brown - Exterior Model Engineer,http://www.precisionmanuals.comSpecs: MSI Z97 Gaming 7 | Intel i7 4970K OC @ 4.6GHz | Gigabyte GTX970 G1 4GB | 16GB (2X8GB) G.Skill Trident | Corsair Air 540 White Case | Corsair AX750 750W PSU | 27" Samsung SyncMaster 275T+ | 27" Samsung S27D850 | 13" Wacom Cintiq | Windows 10 Professional x64
June 6, 201114 yr its an ancient control system compared to whats out there right now. If it ain't broke, don't replace it. So true!!! I have just replaced my old X45.... It broke after 7 fantastic years, and what seems of thousands of flight hours... Now i have bought the G940, and it seems like a good replacement :)I am looking forward to try it out when the NGX is released :D Anders Weber ATPL(A) Student EKBI - Billund, Denmark
June 7, 201114 yr Commercial Member As amazing as it seems, I had planned to shoot this video two weeks ago, but the non-stop effort to get the NGX into release candidate mode takes priority over just about everything these days. Hmmm, I would think you would focus on wide beta mode before RC mode. Noah Bryant
June 7, 201114 yr Hi I admire the tenacity you have for getting this near perfect. I wonder if God spent more time on the heavens and earth what he could have achieved. I fear 7 days was a tad rushed. Brett Nicholls Brett Nicholls Asus P8p67 Pro, 2500k@ 4.8 8 Gig Gskill CL8 MSI GTX 560ti 880 Mhz Antec High Current Gamer 750W Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus with 2 Arctic Cooling F2 fans REX 2 + REX overdrive PMDG NGX 737
June 7, 201114 yr No- we made a design decision NOT to do circuit breakers largely because of the performance impact that 622 circuit breakers could have. They just aren't necessary- as CBs are not there to be operated by pilots. The mechanics use them quite a bit, but crews wasting time monkeying with CBs have caused an unfortunate number of people to die prematurely...Wow, did you count them Robert? Matthew Bellette
June 7, 201114 yr I'm happy with any update, but I'm also perplexed as to why they won't confirm if all versions will be included in the initial release. Since they won't address it directly, then I have to speculate based on what information has been provided to date. I would guess since we've not seen any 600 or 700 models yet, that they will be sold separately, and probably weeks after the initial release. Please PMDG, tell me I'm wrong on this. Curt Branch
June 7, 201114 yr -nevermind- Eric Vander Pilot and Controller Boston Virtual ATC KATL - The plural form of cow. KORD - Something you put in a power socket. UNIT - Something of measure My 747 Fuel Calculator
June 7, 201114 yr Wow, did you count them Robert?Ummm don't ask. By now Robert could probably tell you on which P panel and which row a particular breaker is on.JackColwill
June 7, 201114 yr Well if the occasional "drip" from the LAV vent isn't modeled, I will have to pass on this product! :( :( "To most the sky is the limit but to me it's home" Rick Harms (CYVR) i7 [email protected] (for now) asus p6t v2, 6gb ocz 1600 CL7 ram. BFG 285 oc, vista 64, Samsung 52" 1080p lcd track IR5. PMDG j41, 747-400x, 747-8i/f, NGX.......Finally!!!!
June 7, 201114 yr I'm happy with any update, but I'm also perplexed as to why they won't confirm if all versions will be included in the initial release. Since they won't address it directly, then I have to speculate based on what information has been provided to date. I would guess since we've not seen any 600 or 700 models yet, that they will be sold separately, and probably weeks after the initial release. Please PMDG, tell me I'm wrong on this.Well, thats about the only question i would have left too. If it is all one pack or... If it is going to be like the older NG's. (I wish they would be all in one buy package but heck, i look forward to them all. Including the BBJ's.) Considering you guys are going insane over this, i will be more than supportive of the NGX. :(
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