I will definitely agree that it really doesn't matter which is the best if both are great.

 

The PMDG T7 will come out and trump the Dash and become the fastest selling FSX aircraft of all time.

 

Then the FSLabs A320 will come out and trump the T7 and become the fastest selling FSX aircraft of all time.

 

And then someone else will move ahead.

 

It's a great time to be an FSX pilot.

"It's a great time to be an FSX pilot.

 

I will definitely agree that it really doesn't matter which is the best if both are great.

 

The PMDG T7 will come out and trump the Dash and become the fastest selling FSX aircraft of all time.

 

Then the FSLabs A320 will come out and trump the T7 and become the fastest selling FSX aircraft of all time.

 

And then someone else will move ahead.

 

It's a great time to be an FSX pilot.

It's a great time to be an FSX pilot.

 

 

you nailed it bud!

I dont think its a question of which is better "NGX Or Q400" both are equally as good IMO. 

 

I cant say which of the two are better as of now purely because the Q400 was only released yesterday. Give it the next few months and I can come to a conclusion. 

 

The NGX is an amazing aircraft, the amount of work PMDG has put into this masterpiece is astounding, the level of detail in the systems and quality of textures. 

 

The Majestic Q400 from what I have seen over the past 24 hours, is too an amazing aircraft especially the flight dynamics, thats what makes this aircraft different from the rest. Also the quality in textures flight systems, and that relaxing, soothing classical music they have added . 

Oh boy, because of this i smell a absolutely magnificent T7!

The Q400 doesn't have any 2D panels (a couple of pop-ups). It's 2D panels that soak up memory when they're loaded.

 

Also - don't expect other developers to flock to an external flight dynamics engine. The FSX engine is very capable of simulating jet aircraft to within a very narrow margin of real world performance figures, you just need to know how to manipulate it to give the required results. As I understand it, Majestic went with an external engine to simulate the effects of a turboprop aircraft properly.

 

Correct.

 

As for the OP question there isn't anyone better, but they simulating two different aircraft which both are beauties.

That's the beauty of FSX you can simulate different aircraft and learn and enjoy, those it matter

which one has one tiny bit better done as the other?

That's also personal per simmer what the immersion factor is ;-)

Call me old fashioned, but I'm a sucker for good FPS. I'm having more fun in the Q4 right now  :p0502:

Guys,

 

Remember that the NGX is almost two years old now..

 

As long as pmdg look at the competition [like majestic] and learn and optimise some things. We should have no issues.

 

The Dash 8, especially in terms of performance in the sim, is far beyond the NGX at this moment in time, but I repeat. It is also 1.5 years newer

 

Alex

I think the NGX is still at the top even the QW 146 is better just my Opinion.  The Q400 is still an excellant add on.  The one thing it realy lacks is A Decent Tutorial.  I have done the Tutorial 3 times i can set up the FMC and get flying but it all goes Pear Shaped when its time to enter the VNAV into the FMC when planning your descent. The STAR arrival used in the Tutoriol is not even in the Data base It just seems like they have missed complete sections in the tutorial and left us to work the rest out. Hope Majestic can do  a better more in depth Tutorial or someone that knows the Q400 systems can do a Youtube Video Tutorial.  Maybe if it Had the Decent tutorial i might off said its on Par with the NGX.   Just my 2 cents worth!!!!

 

Cheers Jason

I love the QW 146, but comaparing it to the Q400 is a little silly. As great as it is, the QW offering is not on the same level simulation wise as the Q400.

 

I think a lot of the comments on here hailing the Q400 as better than the NGX is down to pure excitement and novelty of a a new release. 

 

The simulation complexity of the NGX is way and above anything I've seen so far in the dash. It's not because the NGX has had a couple of service packs either. The NGX was a far more polished and complete product on day one. Failure modelling, service based failures, HUGS, the little unseen details (anyone read the NGX intro document and tested it out?), LNAV/VNAV simulation, custom autopilot that doesn't rely on default FSX autopilot and all it's limitations. The overall feel of a 'complete' product....

 

The only area where the Q400 is on top at the moment is FPS. There is nothing particularly innovative here that PMDG didn't do with the Jetstream 41 3 years ago.

 

Adam.      

There are a few things Majestic has done that Pmdg has not done. At all.

 

Also, this version of the Q400 already equals and surpasses the NG in a few areas and it isn't even the Professional version they have yet to release.

Arklight1 I completely agree.

 

I think it's the best, if your not used to the UNS-1 it takes some getting used too but it's a fantastic plane.

 

Lee

"The King is dead... long live the King!"

I think the NGX is still at the top even the QW 146 is better just my Opinion.  The Q400 is still an excellant add on.  The one thing it realy lacks is A Decent Tutorial.  I have done the Tutorial 3 times i can set up the FMC and get flying but it all goes Pear Shaped when its time to enter the VNAV into the FMC when planning your descent.

i know this sounds crazy but the vnav operation is described in great detail in the manual. check out page 121-125 or so. the tutorial skips a lot of details which are in the manual.

 

cheers-

andy crosby

 

Failure modelling, service based failures, HUGS, the little unseen details (anyone read the NGX intro document and tested it out?), LNAV/VNAV simulation, custom autopilot that doesn't rely on default FSX autopilot and all it's limitations. The overall feel of a 'complete' product....

it is my undertsanding that the failure stuff is in the 'pro' version.

 

dunno what 'unseen details' you're talking about, care to elaborate?

 

lnav/vnav work great in the q400 not sure why you would compare them.

 

in fact i dunno how you would tell if it uses the fsx autopilot or not. considering that the entire FDE is non-fsx i'd assume the autopilot is custom too. either way, if it works like the real thing, what's the issue?

 

as far as 'overall feel' they both seem like great planes to me.

 

cheers

-andy crosby

they are both good ,  just my 02 .......

Great to see this post has stayed civilized. I don't think anyone can deny that both products are excellent and worth every penny.  So far my biggest gripes with the Q400 are

1: The external editor .  Sorry but this is a total outdated method.
2: Tutorial Flight.  It's probably the worst example I have ever seen. Hard to follow and skips steps.

I do like the WX radar and sounds. The VC is also excellent..

There is of course more excitement about a new release, versus an 18 month+ old release......

 

When the dust settles, for me, I think I will equally love :-

 

• The Majestic Q400
• The Aerosoft Airbus X Extended
• The PMDG 737 NGX

 

........they all have different 'strengths' (and very few weaknesses!) and things I enjoy about them.

 

But saying all that, the Q400 really has raised the overall bar for me, in terms of :-

 

• The Flight Dynamics; which are unprecedented and have to be experienced.
• The FPS Performance: which for an aircraft add-on of this complexity, is outrageously amazing.

I don't think PMDG need to worry about going out of business..... :smile: ... but I do hope they will look at what Majestic have done with the external FDE approach, and aspire to go in this direction themselves.

How does the ILS capture work in the q400 compared to the NGX?.

I've used the QW146 and find the ILS capture very hit and miss.

For me (still learning the hard way to hand fly the landing :mad: ) having

a craft with the fidelity of the LDS 767 or NGX when it comes to ILS capture

is a make or break deal.

Any feedback from q400 owners would be appreciated.

Cheers

Jay