August 8, 201312 yr If you don't have the APU or an engine running then yes you need the GPU. The pic showed the APU was running while the ground power was live which splits the power up and Jane stated that the APU can't carry the full load and wanted some clarification in that respect. Russell Homan
August 8, 201312 yr The pic showed the APU was running while the ground power was live which splits the power up and Jane stated that the APU can't carry the full load and wanted some clarification in that respect. Ah gotcha, maybe it can't handle the full cabin/galley loads or something. Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWKA<380 love at first flight
August 8, 201312 yr Commercial Member Gents, Jane gave you a tiny bit of incorrect information on the load shedding. The APU will carry the entire airplane, but if you have certain large electricity consumers on, it will dump one or both utility busses in order to meet power demand. If it can only sustain one of the utility buses, it usually chooses the right one. (As in, not the left one.) When on ground power, the APU will take only one side of the airplane unless you force it to do otherwise. The images Jane is showing were taken before the Electrical Load Management System (ELMS) reconfigured the airplane. ELMS is fully simulated and it does spend some time watching consumption rates and adjusts load shedding accordingly. It is a fully dynamic process. Other things we have accurately simulated in the electrical system: break power changes versus no break power changes. These are incredibly important to modeling the systems correctly, yet most simmers probably don't even know they exist... The backup electrical generating capabilities of the airplane are fully modeled as well, including the backup generators and all of their associated self test behaviors, as well as the standby system powering down differently than it powers up, the full ELMS power up test process, the APU auto start sequence if AC power is needed and the RAT of course... No detail has been left out! We have an internal pool running on how many simmers are going to write in to suggest that the electrical system must be broken because the hey displays visible before shutting the batter off, but when they turned the battery back on there were no screens visible. Hmmmmmm And we are also betting on how many folks will notice that the battery takes 90 seconds to turn off after you hit the switch... Like we keep saying, it is the fine details that make PMDG products what they are! Robert S. Randazzo PLEASE NOTE THAT PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at: http://forum.pmdg.com
August 8, 201312 yr And we are also betting on how many folks will notice that the battery takes 90 seconds to turn off after you hit the switch... These things are good to know. I would have thought fsx had freezed up and started reinstalling! :-D ------------------------ Mattias Nordin ESOW
August 8, 201312 yr Rats vs Elms... on a plane. That should make for a great script. Ok you better hurry up and release this before I go completely nuts haha
August 8, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member Gents, Jane gave you a tiny bit of incorrect information on the load shedding. The APU will carry the entire airplane, but if you have certain large electricity consumers on, it will dump one or both utility busses in order to meet power demand. If it can only sustain one of the utility buses, it usually chooses the right one. (As in, not the left one.) When on ground power, the APU will take only one side of the airplane unless you force it to do otherwise. The images Jane is showing were taken before the Electrical Load Management System (ELMS) reconfigured the airplane. ELMS is fully simulated and it does spend some time watching consumption rates and adjusts load shedding accordingly. It is a fully dynamic process. Other things we have accurately simulated in the electrical system: break power changes versus no break power changes. These are incredibly important to modeling the systems correctly, yet most simmers probably don't even know they exist... The backup electrical generating capabilities of the airplane are fully modeled as well, including the backup generators and all of their associated self test behaviors, as well as the standby system powering down differently than it powers up, the full ELMS power up test process, the APU auto start sequence if AC power is needed and the RAT of course... No detail has been left out! We have an internal pool running on how many simmers are going to write in to suggest that the electrical system must be broken because the hey displays visible before shutting the batter off, but when they turned the battery back on there were no screens visible. Hmmmmmm And we are also betting on how many folks will notice that the battery takes 90 seconds to turn off after you hit the switch... Like we keep saying, it is the fine details that make PMDG products what they are! sorry if I mangled my explanation guys! I was trying to say what RSR is saying, but he did it much more eloquently! - Jane Whittaker
August 8, 201312 yr Reading about ELMS, I am confused by the terms Primary and Secondary External Power Source. Is it true to say that the Primary External Power Source is the two IDGs? If so, then why is the word External required? Confused! Cheers, Richard Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.2 GHz, 16 GB memory, 1 TB SSD, GTX 1080 Ti, 28" 4K display Win10-64, P3Dv5, PMDG 748 & 777, Milviz KA350i, ASP3D, vPilot, Navigraph, PFPX, ChasePlane, Orbx
August 8, 201312 yr So, when's the the PMDG official CBT for the PMDG 777 coming out?? What? We have to read over 1000 pages to learn all that stuff??? Nooooo, not even real pilots do that!!! :P Alexis Mefano
August 8, 201312 yr So, when's the the PMDG official CBT for the PMDG 777 coming out?? What? We have to read over 1000 pages to learn all that stuff??? Nooooo, not even real pilots do that!!! :P According to official PMDG report in AUGUST. According some guessings middle in August or sooner. Balint Szarka CPU Intel i9 9900K OC'd to 5Ghz RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB) GPU 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER
August 8, 201312 yr Jorge, Yes, there are popups for all of the screens, the MCP, all three CDU's, and a little one that has the COM1 radio, and transponder controls on it. MCP pop-up and COM1 is extremely useful when flying on line. Great ! Sam. Waiting for the 64-bit PSION Flightsim for ZX-Spectrum ////
August 8, 201312 yr MCP pop-up and COM1 is extremely useful when flying on line. Great ! The overhead 2D popup will be sorely missed, though... :( Ahmed Abdessalam "That which means you can't, doesn't mean you ain't. And that which means you ain't, doesn't mean you can't" -Ahmed Abdessalam
August 8, 201312 yr Commercial Member The overhead 2D popup will be sorely missed, though... :( Absolutely. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
August 8, 201312 yr I use ezdock and set up view for certain parts of the VC works just as good as a 2D pop up for me. Patrick Neuman
August 8, 201312 yr Does the 777X come with a preset of a EZCA Config like the 737 NGX? best regards, Michael K N I T T L PC Specs: i7950@4ghz, ASUS PTV2 Deluxe, nVidia GTX580, 12GB DD3 1600 Corsair Controls: Saitek Yoke & Rudder Pedals, TackIR5
August 8, 201312 yr Rats vs Elms... on a plane. That should make for a great script.They already made that movie with snakes on a plane :blink: Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
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