June 12, 201411 yr Author My Power Target slider maxes out at 106%. My guess is that's because my 780 is a SC card (it is factory overclocked at 967MHz core/1020MHz boost). I also have to re-enable the Frame Rate Target every time I restart my PC (and I have Precision X set to start up with WIndows). Hi Arwen, my 680 is also a factory oc'ed model. I have the EVGA GTX680 SuperClocked Signature. That is the full formal name of my card series. Interesting that we all have a different mask. I never would have thought so....must be built-in protections from EVGA as per card series, I guess. About you also having to reapply each time...check the options screen and see what you can come up with. I will check mine..and see if I enacted something that allows mine to come up to all my settings each time my system boots up. I do believe that there is a check button for that... Post Edit: Arwen, on your left side of the mask, you see START UP...make it go green with an apply click, also, go to the top gears..and under GENERAL, make sure the START WITH WINDOWS is also highlighted. If you need to, press Apply again on the main mask. That is how mine is set up...and my P/X comes up with all my set and saved settings, each and every time I boot the system. That includes all my sliders as well as maintaining my choice of 30 FPS on the Frame Target Slider, which also stays 'checked and enabled'. Mitch
June 12, 201411 yr Any ideas why this doesn't stick there? Be sure to click apply. I wasn't doing this and had the same problem.
June 12, 201411 yr Hi Arwen, my 680 is also a factory oc'ed model. I have the EVGA GTX680 SuperClocked Signature. That is the full formal name of my card series. Interesting that we all have a different mask. I never would have thought so....must be built-in protections from EVGA as per card series, I guess. About you also having to reapply each time...check the options screen and see what you can come up with. I will check mine..and see if I enacted something that allows mine to come up to all my settings each time my system boots up. I do believe that there is a check button for that... Post Edit: Arwen, on your left side of the mask, you see START UP...make it go green with an apply click, also, go to the top gears..and under GENERAL, make sure the START WITH WINDOWS is also highlighted. If you need to, press Apply again on the main mask. That is how mine is set up...and my P/X comes up with all my set and saved settings, each and every time I boot the system. That includes all my sliders as well as maintaining my choice of 30 FPS on the Frame Target Slider, which also stays 'checked and enabled'. Mitch Hey Mitch, START UP is blue on my EVGA Precision UI (I'm usinig the default UI skin) and I have Start with WIndows checked (in the General tab). I also have have Start Minimized checked. And I did use the Apply button, and I keep the software minimized (I don't x-out of the UI). Precision starts up with Windows, but the Frame Rate Target is ALWAYS unckecked after my PC restarts. ~ Arwen ~ Home Airfield: KHIE
June 12, 201411 yr Author Hey Mitch, START UP is blue on my EVGA Precision UI (I'm usinig the default UI skin) and I have Start with WIndows checked (in the General tab). I also have have Start Minimized checked. And I did use the Apply button, and I keep the software minimized (I don't x-out of the UI). Precision starts up with Windows, but the Frame Rate Target is ALWAYS unckecked after my PC restarts. Then, I don't know what more to suggest Arwen. I use the default mask, the (black and white one)...but I don't think our choice of mask interface would have anything to do with that. I believe that you can keep your settings...if I can..then surely you as well. Keep plugging away...and you will. Post Edit: Arwen, I guess you could call my 'green' sort of blue...or more turquoise. Stutter---I have read of a few people that this is plaguing. Greg, Rich, etc. ----------------------------------------------------- I am at 22 FPS with ASN today,having just flown over CYSE proper, and heading towards the Bay in the Raptor....and then for a 180 towards the Glaciers. I have no stutter, and animation is quite smooth. So, I have a question to any reader. If you have an EVGA GTX680 SuperClock SIGNATURE 2 GB card, running Precision X, at or near my settings, and...with my published P3D.cfg file (at the start of this thread in the O.P.) I ask a favor...can you report if any, your stutter (or lack of them) situation. If someone will report that with the same card as I have, they also do not suffer from P3D-stutter issues no matter what FPS they are generating, than that would lead to this particular card as the source of no stutter, and would isolate why I/We don't report any. This has got to be severely frustrating to those that do have this with every P3D flight, no matter the parameters. So..who has the exact same card as I? And...? Post Edit: I just came back from the flight to add...about the definition of what we are calling; stutter....I do have a very mild micro-stutter...but that is scenery being accsessed from my hard drive in real time. I have always had that (very mild, almost imperceptible) and certainly not a immersion distraction. I think we all have that...as scenery needs to be injected and rendered. If you folks (Rich, Gregg) are talking about chunk...stop/go...stop/go even if for a second...then no..I do not see that. My definition of smooth animation, knowing and allowing for the hardware to render and inject (bring aboard) more rolling scenery from the hard drive. That to me is hardware...unavoidable..and not stutter. So do we have a differing of definitions, guys and gals? Perhaps....or perhaps not. The definition to all should be made clear in this matter.... Post Edit 2: Now at 12,000 feet over the Rockies...and anything above 30 FPS...any form of 'stutter' disappears. Even the very slight micro-version that I reported at an FPS of 22 over CYSE. Back to the flight with a full deck of cloud base in three layers, via ASN.
June 12, 201411 yr ... must be built-in protections from EVGA as per card series, I guess. That's it, the maximum power setting in the app is card-specific. What the power setting does is causes the card to boost its clocks only up to that power setting. That's assuming that thermal throttling doesn't occur before that happens.
June 12, 201411 yr I would define them as mini-stutters or micro-stutters. I get them in FSX as well (not as many) but, even so, they're smoother if that makes sense. I have a 770 4GB and I've wondered if that might have something to do with it but, since FSX is smooth, even down to the low 20s, it's behaving as a good card. I also use an HDTV as my monitor which shows EVERY SIN, both for FSX and P3D. When I look closely at my 27" side monitor it has them as well...they're just not so apparent. Also, I just did another test at KPHX...my frames were about 28ish on FSX...about 23ish on P3D. It's only a statistic, though...I don't see as much correlation between smoothness and framerates in P3D as I do in FSX. I think the little tweaks I'm picking up here and there are helping...but I do also think that it'll take 2.3 to get it to equivalent to FSX...I hope. No rush...plenty more native installers still to be made. Gregg Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
June 12, 201411 yr Yeah, this is definitely not my scenery being accessed. The micro stutters are something else entirely.
June 12, 201411 yr If I move the ShadersHLSL folder out of the Prepar3D v2 folder and then run P3D, it fully loads and I just get a black screen. It does not build a new Shaders folder. When I put the original Shaders folder back and run P3D it starts just fine. Does that make any sense? Thanks, Howard Howard Jetline Systems: Intel 8th Gen Core i7 8700K (4.8GHz Overclock); GTX 1080 Ti; LG Curved UltraWide 3440x1440 Monitor .
June 12, 201411 yr Where would I find the correct Shaders folder? Thanks, Howard Jetline Systems: Intel 8th Gen Core i7 8700K (4.8GHz Overclock); GTX 1080 Ti; LG Curved UltraWide 3440x1440 Monitor .
June 13, 201411 yr C:\Users\Whatever your username is\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2 The folder you are deleting is the code the shaders are compiled from. Disclaimer: [email protected] on Asus Maximus X Formula, G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB 4266/17 XMP, EVGA 2080 ti Kingpin (8400/2160Mhz), Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD , 28TB HDD total - 4TB+ photoscenery, Romex Software PrimoCache RAM and SSD cache (must have!), 3x1080p 30" monitors, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, Pimax 4k & BE HMDs, Samsung Gear VR '17, Homdio v1, Cardboard, custom loop 2x 360x64ML Rads, Thermaltake View 71, VRM watercool, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut CPU (naked die), Fujipoly / ModRight Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad on MB VRM. 8x Corsair ML120 (slight positive pressure). 🙂
June 13, 201411 yr "To those of you with stutters, have you also tried setting Vsync to "adaptive" in the Global Settings of the Nvidia Control Panel?" I have helps but not the end all - thanks Rich Sennett
June 13, 201411 yr Thank you. Howard Jetline Systems: Intel 8th Gen Core i7 8700K (4.8GHz Overclock); GTX 1080 Ti; LG Curved UltraWide 3440x1440 Monitor .
June 13, 201411 yr "To those of you with stutters, have you also tried setting Vsync to "adaptive" in the Global Settings of the Nvidia Control Panel?"I have helps but not the end all - thanks Yes. I think it might have helped some. Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
June 13, 201411 yr The stuttering is just mind boggling. I can't even purposely recreate a situation with stutters if they've somehow "gone away" in a given scenario. Maddening. It's the only thing keeping me from LOVING the sim. Plenty of horsepower to drive the eye candy...just want so badly to have fluidity!
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