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Good Bye 2.5...

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It was nice knowing you.

 

Hello 3.0!

 

Yes..I did plan to run parallel installs...and did in fact proceed to do so.  But alas, there is no reason to stick.  3.0 is here to stay and is performing very well......exceeding 2.5 in key areas.  So I no longer see the need.  3.0 will be my focus while I pull all the pieces back together.  Even with default textures and a good boost of detail, this thing excels.  Cheers to LM and everyone who has contributed (testers, Rob :-D)....Thanks for your support!

 

Fun times! 

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   I agree with you. I will be doing the same, flying v3 mostly, from now on. But I do plan on keeping v2.5 around as a guinea pig for new software.

 

 

  Cheers, Craig

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I have to say, I was sure that this P3D 3.0 version was going to be another letdown like 2.5 but I just tried it myself (Academic version) since I purchased 2.5 less then two months ago so I was eligible for the refund and rebuy.  Boy, what a difference!...much much better then 2.5.  I don't have anymore of that dreaded awful screen tearing I was having with 2.5.  Some people were saying it was my 2gig GTX 680 but I knew it wasn't because I was running 2.5 very well except for that tearing issue that was bothering me and I couldn't get rid of it.  Thank god I don't have to shell out 300-500 $$$ for a new video card.

 

I'm a happy P3D 3.0 user!!!  So yes, believe the guys that say things were changed and improved for the better!

 

peace!

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I'm almost there. I reloaded XP10 10.40 just to see whether I had been missing anything. I decided again that I'd rather spend $200 on P3d V3, rather than a heck of a lot more money on XP addons to bring XP close to even P3d 2.5 with its full complement of aircraft, ORBX scenery, REX TD 4, ASN weather, dozens of aircraft, especially the Real Air Turbine Duke, the A2A GA fleet and the PMDG 777 and NGX.

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Downloading v3 now, but I will keep 2.5 for comparison purposes for now. 

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Cheers to LM and everyone who has contributed (testers, Rob :-D)....Thanks for your support!

 

It was definitely A LOT of work for MANY folks, lots of good Beta testers and a great development team.  I wasn't able to test ASN in V3 Betas until tonight and was in awe ... just amazing weather depiction (no FPS hit, no VAS hit, and utterly realistic) .. and that was with default V3 clouds, I can only imagine that REX clouds would add even more to the experience.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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I may be well out of my league to state this but in the relatively short amount of time between version releases, it looks like a lot of folks at LM toiled endlessly in order to find some significant VAS savings and performance improvments. And, to top it all off, this is all with a platform that they inherited--and did not develop (although they've had it for a couple of years). I'm not sure what the AVSIM consensus is but there seems to be some good, solid work going on over at LM's simulation and training division.

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It was definitely A LOT of work for MANY folks, lots of good Beta testers and a great development team.  I wasn't able to test ASN in V3 Betas until tonight and was in awe ... just amazing weather depiction (no FPS hit, no VAS hit, and utterly realistic) .. and that was with default V3 clouds, I can only imagine that REX clouds would add even more to the experience.

 

Cheers, Rob.

I performed a quick flight out of the UK last night with ASN's beta and I think I've found the culprit to my stutters in P3D and it's ASN.  I'm still testing now (since I don't have definitive proof) but I thought after backing down cloud layers to 3, it would help.  Now, i don't get VAS issues or bad frames, so that's still a plus but the stutters...worse than a conversation with Mel Tillis.

 

-Jim

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Nice to hear all this good things about V3. Im eager to participate too. I was among those who purchased right after release. Sadly, Im a AMD User so I have to wait until there is a solution...http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=113579

 

@Rob: Dont you have an AMD owner in the Beta-Team to test Eyefinity, Crossfire and the like?

 

No rant, just curious. 

 

Cheers, Marcel

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I too was was going to keep 2.5 installed for a while.  But, it's gone already!

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i am also in the V3 weekend mode doing KSFO-KLAX test with the 77W from PMDG and so far i am pretty happy . I am using SLI and really trying to find the balance to stay at 25 fps .Still a FPS hook this hobby is.

 

But without my FTX Global etc it is hard to compare my 2.5 with 3.0 but it seems like a VAS killer so thats great.

 

What is this with a utility called fs cubed or something ? 

 

Michael Moe

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Yep I dumped 2.5 as well and went all in on 3.0.  I did a comparison flight in 3.0 this morning between T2G OTHH and FT OMDB in the PMDG 777-200LR that normally resulted in an OOM for me in 2.5.  No OOM even overflying DXB twice (The arrival takes you past the airport and back in from the south).  This is with even more aggressive display settings than I ever had in 2.5 (all sliders maxed basically) with tons of 3rd party add-ons.  3.0 is definitely worth it for me.

 

Cheers

Daniel

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Good to see a post like this as I have been waffling on whether to install v3 alongside my 2.5.  I may just go ahead and do it.  I have been holding off also on updating my Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 and wonder if I should do that first before installing v3?  Might be a busy weekend....

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I honestly think it's early days to say if P3D v3 is such the leap forward some are suggesting.

 

For me, 2.5 out of the box is as beautiful and stable as everyone is finding v3

 

It's really only once you throw all the various addons at it that performance slows to a crawl.

 

I was watching Frooglesim's first look yesterday and I couldn't really see what was so revolutionary about it not crashing on him when running everything maxed and jumping between airports all around the world. Isn't this just as easy in 2.5?

 

It certainly seems the VAS management is better and will generate far less, if any, ooms for people. But I don't think the tests people are performing on vanilla v3 is entirely fair.

 

However, I will purchase v3 and am happy to support LM in their development. I'm just going to wait for a few more addons to become supported.

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Another one for this.  I too was going to keep 2.5 for a bit, then LM misunderstood my email and refunded my 2 week old renewal of 2.5.  Happily  v3 is way better on vas, SLI works out of the box, FPS up.  Blurries down , no stutters so far and AA etc OK .   Course that's without complex add-ons so far, but all my photo and photoreal scenery is fine so got plenty places to fly before OrbX updates. With the 3PD stuff I have being updated shortly or already working,  it's goodbye to 2.5.   Get some 80 Gb back - until the FTX and other add-ons reinstalled anyway.  That's the only bummer with all this - a 2Mb broadband with horrendous download times.

 

Another thanks then to Rob and the others for their work and condidence in the product   :smile:   Happy customer

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I used fscube yesterday after watching Jordan King's review. Its very simple to use and very low cost at simmarket. But it took 4 hours to back up the scenery from 2.5. To install to 3.0 1half hour. But the houses and some of the texture were missing in the Orbx regions. Vector does not get copy for some reason. Jordon says it work great for him. 

I will post at there forum see if I can get some help.

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I honestly think it's early days to say if P3D v3 is such the leap forward some are suggesting.

 

For me, 2.5 out of the box is as beautiful and stable as everyone is finding v3

 

It's really only once you throw all the various addons at it that performance slows to a crawl.

 

I was watching Frooglesim's first look yesterday and I couldn't really see what was so revolutionary about it not crashing on him when running everything maxed and jumping between airports all around the world. Isn't this just as easy in 2.5?

 

It certainly seems the VAS management is better and will generate far less, if any, ooms for people. But I don't think the tests people are performing on vanilla v3 is entirely fair.

 

However, I will purchase v3 and and happy to support LM in their development. I'm just going to wait for a few more addons to become supported.

 

Early days or not I now have a like-for-like setup in terms of add-ons and the VAS and FPS difference is notable.  I realise that I may be trailblazing here but so far in V3 I have installed (through tricking the installers thinking that 3.0 is actually 2.5):

  • ORBX FTX Global
  • ORBX FTX Vector (can't do an auto-scan of elevations in the utility)
  • ORBX FTX OpenLC Europe
  • ORBX FTX England
  • ORBX FTX Scotland
  • ORBX FTX Trees HD
  • FreeMeshX
  • FSUIPC
  • GSX
  • PMDG 777-200 and 300
  • FS2Crew 777 voice edition
  • PMDG 737NGX
  • Majestic Q400
  • Aerosoft A318/19/20/21
  • ASN
  • REX4 TD + Soft Clouds
  • PrecipitFX
  • Taxi2Gate Doha
  • FlyTampa Dubai
  • UK2000 Edinburgh Extreme
  • UK2000 Stansted Extreme

And even with all of this enabled I don't OOM in scenarios in 3.0 where I have guaranteed OOMs in 2.5.  I'm doing more tests this weekend but so far it looks like a good gig with a dedicated 3.0 setup.

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Well I think most of us would recognise that as the de-facto standard list of required addons to get for P3D, so thanks for being a trailblazer for everyone.

 

Great to hear it's working so well in that config.

 

Add UK2000 EGLL and shoot an approach to 27L/R over London in either the A319 or 737 please if you get time!!

 

That's a guarunteed OOM for me....

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I don't have any EGLL scenery yet purely because I knew I'd OOM in 2.5.  In fact I've held off on buying a lot of addon scenery due to that issue.  3.0 now opens up the door to allow a more rounded airport scenery experience.  I'll install the eval of UK2000 EGLL now and let you know whether or not I OOM :)  I'll do a short hop from UK2000 EGSS to EGLL in the NGX with FTX England enabled.

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:smile:  top man, thanks

 

If you don't OOM, I promise to buy v3 later today

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i am flying between KSFO-KLAX and with default P3D textures .Above slightly normal autogen std settings in 2048 in the 777 but i dont se a reduce in VAS during the flight . It stays at 2.9 GB so far about 100 nm from KLAX

 

Michael Moe

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:smile:  top man, thanks

 

If you don't OOM, I promise to buy v3 later today

 

Okay, so I just OOMed on approach to UK2000 EGLL 27L in the 737NGX - about 6nm west of Dartford to be exact.  I installed Heathrow with Extreme settings and all my scenery sliders are maxed.  I'll play around with the settings to see if I can make a landing without an OOM.

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scenario startup time zone bug still there. how did they miss that? not a big deal but annoying

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Okay, so I just OOMed on approach to UK2000 EGLL 27L in the 737NGX - about 6nm west of Dartford to be exact.  I installed Heathrow with Extreme settings and all my scenery sliders are maxed.  I'll play around with the settings to see if I can make a landing without an OOM.

 

Cheers PM!

 

No great surprise I guess, good to know where the limits are though.

 

I appreciate you spending the time on this test. :hi:

 

I guess one of the areas VAS management will make a difference will be for those who fly long haul and who in the past have suffered with memory not being "released" correctly.

 

There's still a finite amount of memory to be shared amongst all these great addons, irrespective of how well it's now "released"

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Cheers PM!

 

No great surprise I guess, good to know where the limits are though.

 

I appreciate you spending the time on this test. :hi:

 

I guess one of the areas VAS management will make a difference will be for those who fly long haul and who in the past have suffered with memory not being "released" correctly.

 

There's still a finite amount of memory to be shared amongst all these great addons, irrespective of how well it's now "released"

 

Right, so looks like you're buying P3D v3.0 today, EGLD :)

 

Flew from EGSS to EGLL right over Stratford and past Canary Wharf to intercept the localiser for 27L.  Had 391MB free VAS on rollout.  During the approach I panned around and switched views as well to try and make it OOM.  I reduced settings slightly - see here for the settings and VAS during the flight:

 

https://imgur.com/a/yceX1

 

This is with PMDG 737-800NGX (Ryanair livery)

FTX Global in hybrid mode with Vector (see my reduced Vector settings to prevent OOM), FTX England and FTX Scotland active.  ActiveskyNext with 10 cloud layers, REX4 (see settings in the album above), UK2000 EGLL demo and UK2000 EGSS (full version).

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