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X-Craft Embraer E175 released!

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Aircraft was released in the last hour, best of luck to the developer, it looks quite good.

 

 

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It really looks quite high quality. 

Anyone has some experience with X-Crafts?

 

On a related note, I don't know if I will ever get over that awful yoke design that Embraer came up with. The most awkward thing I have ever laid my hands on.

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The FMS is basically an implementation of default Garmin 430 device so it's not a reflection of the native FMS from the craft.

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The FMS is basically an implementation of default Garmin 430 device so it's not a reflection of the native FMS from the craft.

Plane looks great but ^ ... Bah!

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It really looks quite high quality. 

Anyone has some experience with X-Crafts?

X-Craft's first aircraft, the E195, had already a great outside model, but the cockpit model was lacking a bit and not much better than the SSG's E195. It also just had X-Plane's default FMC. The flight behavior was problematic in the first versions, but improved a lot later on.

 

I don't own the E175 yet, but it looks much better on the screenshots, and the FMC is able to load SIDs and STARs, and seems to allow for easier flight plan editing. The moving map is X-Plane default, so the avionics are a combination of custom and default elements.

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Not to be a debbie downer, but if you're going by reviews I'd wait for something more official. The owner of X-Plane.org PAYS the person writing these reviews on a monthly basis. I'm sure they don't tell people this fact for good reason.

 

I haven't even read this one, but I expect it to be every bit as positive as each other one to stuff the pockets of the person stuffing the reviewers own pockets. ;)

 

In other words, there's too much bias there. The product may very well be good, and I actually think at some point I'd enjoy to purchase it, but that doesn't take away from the above.

 

PC Pilot or Computer Pilot, as well as FS Magazin are a bit more authoritative and unbiased.

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Graphically, much, much better than the other E-190, 195 etc... Sounds are better as well. However, this may be a good one for Blue Sky Star to get their hands on.

I didn't spend too much time with her tonight. I noticed that the Nav displays didn't show my route, distance to, TOD information etc.. that I could see anywhere. I realize that the developer had to use some default Xplane stuff in here. I do need to read up on the manuals next. If I do get sufficient time in, i will post my thoughts. With my schedule, I'm sure there are many that will beat me to it. :-)

 

Best, Jeff

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I noticed that the Nav displays didn't show my route, distance to, TOD information etc.. that I could see anywhere. I realize that the developer had to use some default Xplane stuff in here.

Hi Jeff.

 

From what I've read there is no Vnav capability so that would explain the lack of Toc/Tod. The Fmc will allow a route with Sid/Star procedures to be added and edited using the X-Plane custom data folder which is of course updateable (same as FLightFactor use). This is most welcome but a simulation of an Embraer Fmc it is most definitely not, although to their credit they have tried to emulate the look and feel.

I probably won't be getting this but those who enjoy "lite" aircraft will appreciate the addition of the dep/arr procedures and waypoint editing (not sure yet if you can add airways). Nice looking model though it has to be said, and the price is not excessive. Who knows, in a future Org sale I may pick it up.

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The owner of X-Plane.org PAYS the person writing these reviews on a monthly basis. I'm sure they don't tell people this fact for good reason.

 

Be careful with using conjectures...

Btw. how about marking system requirements on your sites, so we don't need to ask about supported os like Linux etc.

(Not that I'd intend to buy from a site, that I got kicked without notice, after my first post.)

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Please stay on topic and don't turn this thread into another slanging match. 

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Mr Sgier (CyberMike for those that don't know),

 

I realize you have or could have in the future a review here too. There's nothing wrong with that at all, and Mr. Dutton himself (the reviewer) is a great guy! That said, I think it's important people know how the individual reviewing said products is compensated, and, well, in this instance it's by the very store owner who sells the products.

 

Be careful with using conjectures...

These are no conjectures. I very much so have solid proof, and I'm sure you knew the association too. There's a reason these reviews are directly linked on the org product pages, you know.

 

But, more importantly, I have it from the reviewer himself how he's compensated. I'm not guessing. I've been told by the man himself when this website was initially started, and by whom.

 

Btw. how about marking system requirements on your sites, so we don't need to ask about supported os like Linux etc

In due time. Right now we get about 2-3 people asking about Linux every month. I can manage that for now. :)

 

Anyways, back on topic, and sorry Tony!

 

I can appreciate this aircraft for what it is, and will most certainly look at obtaining it. There's slim pickings in the E175 market, and even without 100% functionality it looks like a blast to fly, as well as a very well modeled 3D exterior! :) Plus, I'm sure these guys will continue to improve on it based on user feedback. The two guys who developed the product are solid individuals.

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Not to be a debbie downer, but if you're going by reviews I'd wait for something more official. The owner of X-Plane.org PAYS the person writing these reviews on a monthly basis. I'm sure they don't tell people this fact for good reason.

 

I haven't even read this one, but I expect it to be every bit as positive as each other one to stuff the pockets of the person stuffing the reviewers own pockets. ;)

 

In other words, there's too much bias there. The product may very well be good, and I actually think at some point I'd enjoy to purchase it, but that doesn't take away from the above.

 

PC Pilot or Computer Pilot, as well as FS Magazin are a bit more authoritative and unbiased.

This ^

 

 

I hate to say it but the .org has it figured out, why spend time building study level sims like IXEG when 95 percent of the customers won't notice it. Just have developers pump out pretty looking kind of sort of simulated planes and collect money.

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This ^

 

 

I hate to say it but the .org has it figured out, why spend time building study level sims like IXEG when 95 percent of the customers won't notice it. Just have developers pump out pretty looking kind of sort of simulated planes and collect money.

 

It's not like it's a 'bad' approach though. If, as you said, 95 precent of customers won't even notice the lacking of FMS, it probably means that vast majority doesn't look for such complex and detailed aircraft. To each their own.

 

Anyhow, on the topic at hand - I obviously couldn't hold myself and bought this plane, and for me it works like a charm. Especially I love how the plane handles on approaches and by hand flying. As for FMS, it has everything I might want or need, so personally I don't consider it as a disadvantage. And lastly, it's an eyecandy  :wub:

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It's not like it's a 'bad' approach though. If, as you said, 95 precent of customers won't even notice the lacking of FMS, it probably means that vast majority doesn't look for such complex and detailed aircraft. To each their own.

Sure but not if X-Plane developers wish to attract custom from the large majority of airliner simmers who today prefer FSX/P3D for that very reason, and will therefore continue to do so ...

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Anyhow, on the topic at hand - I obviously couldn't hold myself and bought this plane, and for me it works like a charm. Especially I love how the plane handles on approaches and by hand flying. As for FMS, it has everything I might want or need, so personally I don't consider it as a disadvantage. And lastly, it's an eyecandy  :wub:

 

 

Hi does it follow VNAV, LNAV, flight path and lock's on the LOC on the ball and follow glide scope ??

Sure but not if X-Plane developers wish to attract custom from the large majority of airliner simmers who today prefer FSX/P3D for that very reason, and will therefore continue to do so ...

totally agree its about time that x plane gets quality tubes .

this is what x plane is really missing

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I have been looking for a good regional jet to compliment the other Heavy Metal in my hanger,

 

Would those of you who have this say it was worth the purchase?

 

This would be perfect for my short hops in both North America & Europe :)

 

Richard

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This ^

 

 

I hate to say it but the .org has it figured out, why spend time building study level sims like IXEG when 95 percent of the customers won't notice it. Just have developers pump out pretty looking kind of sort of simulated planes and collect money.

 

Sure but not if X-Plane developers wish to attract custom from the large majority of airliner simmers who today prefer FSX/P3D for that very reason, and will therefore continue to do so ...

 

OK i love my aircrafts realisitc as possible but atleast i realize that these people like me are a minortiy. It's quite funny when people say we should attract a majority. Let's face it you are attracting a minority and not a majority and while we all like to think that we are pinacle of reference in terms of flightsimming, we account for a minorty. Ironically that minority acccounts for the majority of forum posts and negativity.

 

To put something in perspective here this was posted by Laminar on their twitter account

 

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50% of all people use the mouse for flying a plane. The Top 3 planes are stock x-plane planes. Three times more people start with engines running and dont enjoy hour long cold and dark procedures.

 

This is the reality of flight simming.

 

 

 

Now i agree that for me a light airplane is not appealing anymore. However if communicated correctly, which in this case it always has been, it will never be a reason to say the plane is bad or that it will stop the myriads of FSX/P3D hardcore simmers to abandon their ship :)    

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Now i agree that for me a light airplane is not appealing anymore. However if communicated correctly, which in this case it always has been, it will never be a reason to say the plane is bad or that it will stop the myriads of FSX/P3D hardcore simmers to abandon their ship :)

The majority of the participating community are heavy airliner fliers. Those stats do not tell the whole story when it comes to the market, which is a very important factor here. It would shock you to also know how many of those folks know nothing of forums or add-ons.

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OK i love my aircrafts realisitc as possible but atleast i realize that these people like me are a minortiy. It's quite funny when people say we should attract a majority. Let's face it you are attracting a minority and not a majority and while we all like to think that we are pinacle of reference in terms of flightsimming, we account for a minorty. Ironically that minority acccounts for the majority of forum posts and negativity.

My point was the majority of hardcore airliner simmers currently favour FSX/P3D largely because of the fidelity of the add-ons available for that platform, not the public as a whole.

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I think we are getting offtopic but if I may say something. A lot of people have tried or are trying out X-Plane the last year or so having moved or sharing their time with other sims be it FSX or P3D. The latter two have more than 10 years of development time behind them and a much larger user base so obviously add-ons have been getting better in these two sims. Bear in mind that X-Plane is still evolving and with more followers and more dev support it will get better. I am also one of those who want PMDG style FMC's and system modeling but I also realize this can take a bit more time, it will come eventually we have to be more patient.

 

Having said that I think that the current dev's will not just be able to get away with a nice shiny model and fancy passenger cabin the systems modeling is going to become a necessity for them to sell their wares so it should all work out in the end.

 

Lastly on topic :)

To this end I think the X-Craft E175 is great value for money for those wanting a simple and very useable regional jet.

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Hi does it follow VNAV, LNAV, flight path and lock's on the LOC on the ball and follow glide scope ??

 

 

I am almost positive it does follow VNAV, as for the rest - I didn't have time to test it.

 

Plane comes with ~38 pages long instruction for FMS alone and 60-something pages long manual for the aircraft.

I think I could send those to the interested people. 

 

As for complexity+quality vs price ratio, I think this plane is quite worth the money, especially for someone who, like me, looked for some good regional jet as an addition to their fleet. 

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