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I just saw on Simmarket the REX has made Soft Clouds for FS9. This is a nice surprise for me because I have and like all the FS9 stuff REX has made, and thought they were done with FS9 a long time ago.

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I keep scratching my head why so many people bother with FSX/P3D over FS9. Great to see some developers aware there is still a FS9 market and you know, it might even be an ever so slightly growing market! lol 

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I just bought it from REX but they have failed to provide a link to the downloadable.  Great products, but their customer service is the most convoluted thing imaginable.  Why should I have to go and post my problem on their forum to get an answer?  Just answer the friggin' email.

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I just bought it from REX but they have failed to provide a link to the downloadable.  Great products, but their customer service is the most convoluted thing imaginable.  Why should I have to go and post my problem on their forum to get an answer?  Just answer the friggin' email.

 

We had a gliche with our store today.  We have corrected it, but I will need to provide you with a direct link.  Please email me at: rstough@rexgamestudios.com

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Seems  that your  the only  one  who is  having  this issue might  pay you to visit the rex  forum to post your issue

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so no harm in posting  your issue  in the correct  forum being  the rex  forum  which you will get  your  anwser

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I believe the attraction is the clouds are "semi-volumetric".

I'd like to hear from users what that exactly means to them.

 

Normally I'd just buy the product, steeped as one is in the joy of an FS9 release.

But I have a great deal of work invested in my clouds, and am actually very happy...

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Why would they be 'softer' then fs9 default which is the same resolution?

 

My opinion for some time is its nothing more then a clever marketing ploy to 'sucker' FSX and p3d users who had a misguided belief that 4096 sized clouds would be the most realistic. Instead they've all been suckered to buy 'soft' clouds which are no more then fs9 default sized and looking.

 

 

 

There. I said it.

I use REX Environment Xtreme  2004 and they have always given the best rendition in clouds.  They have always looked ethereal to view...and every time I take a heavy up through them....out escapes...an Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....now THOSE are clouds....depth, color, all of it...welcome home....

 

Mitch

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Why would they be 'softer' then fs9 default which is the same resolution?

 

My opinion for some time is its nothing more then a clever marketing ploy to 'sucker' FSX and p3d users who had a misguided belief that 4096 sized clouds would be the most realistic. Instead they've all been suckered to buy 'soft' clouds which are no more then fs9 default sized and looking.

 

 

 

There. I said it.

Jon, designing my clouds for Evo I also realised that hi-res clouds usually mean hard-edged clouds. Looks great on screenshots but for me the feel isn't right flying through them. 32 bits is good as the alpha alyers can be finely structured for a soft look from close-up. With lower resolutions soft edges start looking pixelish. I finally settled for a larger texture size in a lower resolution as the best compromise between structural definition and soft loks.

 

I wonder how volumetric clouds could work with the fs9 though as the clouds are displaying as billboards.

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When this "soft cloud" thing first came out for FSX awhile back (I'm FS2004 ONLY user  .... FSX mentioned only for timeline purposes), I was using Hi-Def clouds.  I decided to go back to Flight Environment (FE) and see what I had replaced.

Lo and behold ..... soft clouds which were much more "realistic" looking.

Sometimes "new" is really just "old" revisited.

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I may well be a guilty party in all of this.   :spiteful:

 

When Rex released "Soft Clouds" for P3D and FSX I chose to be a denier and posted a screenshot (P3D forum) showing the use of default clouds in FS9 as an example of truly soft clouds. I believe, if memory serves me correctly, I may have even had the temerity to refer to (the alleged) comment by P.T.Barnum :- 'There's a sucker born every minute.' 

 

Jon_aus was kind enough to compliment me for the screenshot and I was surprised, and delighted, to learn subsequently through his posts that he had converted to default clouds also.  First impressions count and I note Jon is not convinced Rex is demonstrably better.  I realise it is early days yet, however I can't help to be reminded of another homily ... 'A fool and his money are soon parted.'

 

I would wait a little until trusted feedback is posted here before rushing out to buy something which may not be needed.

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HI Folks,

 

While I find it commendable that a vendor shows FS9 some consideration - I've been extremely happy with FE and haven't found anything better - obviously according to my tastes... I've always been of the opinion that the REX clouds seem way too hard with clearly defined edges that made them look unnatural - so "Soft Clouds" might be a step in the right direction...

 

Regards,

Scott

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I also would be interested to try default clouds. But. How do you convert them to 256*256 while maintaining 32 bit? I manage to change them to 256 but at the same time they are 24 bit. Any advice is appreciated.

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I also would be interested to try default clouds. But. How do you convert them to 256*256 while maintaining 32 bit? I manage to change them to 256 but at the same time they are 24 bit. Any advice is appreciated.

Did you use dxtbmp for this? You need to open the file with dxtbmp first, then send it to the editor of your choice. Reduce size, save the file in the editor, refresh in dxtbmp and save it again. The original format will be preserved. You can also use save as option to select 32bit.

 

You can get dxtbmp here https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/2883/dxtbmp-dxt-extended-bitmap-editor/ or any other number of sites.

 

Cheers,

Sascha

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Thank you very much for your help, is it necesssary to change all cloud types to 256 format?. I can see that some of them can not change from 512 format. And some are already very small in size.  

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Following onto my prior post, I did finally get the Soft Clouds add-on running after two days of slow communication with REX tech support.  I'm not sure what the nay-sayers in prior posts are seeing but the combo of REX, Overdrive (which is an advanced texture package) and the new Soft Clouds is a world apart from the stock cloud textures.  I reverted to the stock textures and then compared them to the full fs9 REX combination.  I would say it is similar to the difference between stock aircraft textures and, say, Carenado's offerings.  If I can figure out how to take screen shots in Windows 10, I'll try to get some examples posted.  Perhaps Soft Clouds can be used without the other REX sky textures, and that might not add much to stock sky textures.  Give me some more time and I will take a look at those options.  

 

Finally, the value equation may not work for some here.  I don't throw money at my setup either.  Ten dollars and some change are what is asked for the Soft Clouds option.  I don't regret paying that.

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Just ignore my last post, after some technical trial and error I managed to sort that thing out. Thank you very much for your help.

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REX Soft Clouds is now 50% off (all REX products are 50% off) at REX's website. They are selling it for $5.48!. Sale ends on New Years Eve. I will be buying it soon!

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Having got my allowance today from my wife, I decided to go to the REX site for the 50% off sale.  Since the Soft Clouds appear to be so inexpensive, I wanted to give it a try .... BUT .... the minimum requirements say "Windows Vista SP2 or greater".  Since I'm one of the stubborn Windows XP personages, I am chagrined.  Has anyone tried these while using Windows XP?  Does it even load?

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No. I bought yesterday hoping to see something new to keep improving FS9. The installer hangs with "Prerequisite check for system component Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 (x86 and x64) failed with the following error message:
"Installation of the Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 is not supported on this operating system. Contact your application vendor."

The day I quit using XP is the same day I waste a ton of money side-grading to FSX and a thousand dollars to make it look like my current FS9 setup. I made a comment on the REX site that they should just come right out and state NOT FOR XP USERS.

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No. I bought yesterday hoping to see something new to keep improving FS9. The installer hangs with "Prerequisite check for system component Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 (x86 and x64) failed with the following error message:

"Installation of the Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 is not supported on this operating system. Contact your application vendor."

The day I quit using XP is the same day I waste a ton of money side-grading to FSX and a thousand dollars to make it look like my current FS9 setup. I made a comment on the REX site that they should just come right out and state NOT FOR XP USERS.

I understand your affinity for XP; however, you really should consider updating.  You're taking a HUGE security gamble by utilizing an outdated and unsupported OS; the last security patch was 2+ years ago.

 

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/531651/windows-xp-is-still-a-favorite-among-hackers/

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I understand your affinity for XP; however, you really should consider updating.  You're taking a HUGE security gamble by utilizing an outdated and unsupported OS; the last security patch was 2+ years ago.

 

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/531651/windows-xp-is-still-a-favorite-among-hackers/

 

Ya ..... and Y2K is STILL wreaking havok to us today.

 

Gonna stick with WindowsXP to the end, thank you.

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The day I quit using XP is the same day I waste a ton of money side-grading to FSX and a thousand dollars to make it look like my current FS9 setup. I made a comment on the REX site that they should just come right out and state NOT FOR XP USERS.

Ah! now there's valuable information...

I have the luxury of a vanilla XP SP3 install (no bloaty updates), and would not even contemplate putting the sim into my WIN 10 box.

It is the definitive way to run FS2004.

 

If Soft Clouds won't run on XP, I guess I'll have to amuse myself by going back into FE/GE Pro and trying another of the gazillion possible combinations there! 

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I've overwritten the original clouds so many times. What is/are the file names that I need to get off the original disks? Thanks.

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