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I have heard a lot about the IFly 747 v2 but I was wondering what is not simulated in the aircraft. Plus is it better than ht current pmdg 747?

 

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Here is a review or first look at the plane. It's very complete. It's a serie of 3 videos

 

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Hi,

I have heard a lot about the IFly 747 v2 but I was wondering what is not simulated in the aircraft. Plus is it better than ht current pmdg 747?

 

Thanks

Be sure to check our front page, the Avsim reviews team publishes reviews of most products, and you can see the previews ones via the front page link

 

The current Avsim review of the iFly747 is here:

 

http://www.avsim.com/index.php/_/reviews/aircraft/review-ifly-747-400-v2-for-fsxp3d-r3325?st=0#comment_9503

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Hi,

I have heard a lot about the IFly 747 v2 but I was wondering what is not simulated in the aircraft. Plus is it better than ht current pmdg 747?

 

Thanks

 

Of  course its better  than the current  pmdg 747  since   how long  has the pmdg 747  been out compared  to the ifly version.    We just have  to wait  till the new pmdg747v2  comes  out than we see  whats  the best  version is

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Of  course its better  than the current  pmdg 747  since   how long  has the pmdg 747  been out compared  to the ifly version.    We just have  to wait  till the new pmdg747v2  comes  out than we see  whats  the best  version is

Probably the PMDG will be a bit better but for the price conscious buyers the iFly is a deal. I have the original PMDG 747 boxed version but will be picking up the iFly version for P3D soon.

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Or probably won't be any better. Hard to top something that even real pilots say hits the numbers. And at far lower value

 

There is no doubt  the pmdgv2  is  going to be better just  have  to look  at the track record of  pmdg

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Hi,

Plus is it better than the current pmdg 747?

 

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I'd say the iFly is probably better than the v1 version of the PMDG version but will probably not be better than v2.

 

Post from PMDG's Robert Randazzo.

 

We have been very quietly at work building this simulation with a massive amount of technical accuracy.  As we begin to openly discuss turning the product over to our beta team, I can tell you with confidence that this is the most accurate simulation of a 747-400 that you will find outside of a training center's certified simulator.  From a technical standpoint, this product has really captured not just the big picture of "what lights and messages make a 747" but it has also captured the true character of the airplane.

 

He also goes on to mention that they have the competitive aircraft as well so they know first hand how they stack up. In addition to the quote he mentions that it will be better than the Aerowinx version which from an accuracy standpoint is probably the best at the mement.

 

From a consumers stand point it's important to remember that PMDG's version is a licensed version of Boeing and that they work with their contacts at Boeing to replicate their aircraft to work as close as possible to what can be done with a desktop sim. Most addon aircraft manufacturers don't have official licensing with the aircraft manufactures to achieve those levels of accuracy. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the Flight1 Mustang which is an officially licensed by Cessna.

 

If you go on to read some of the posts by Robert recently to see what they have modeled both systems wise and in the exterior as far as movements down to the oleos, you'll be impressed to see the depths they have gone to in v2.

 

If you want a study level airliner, then it's hard to go wrong with PMDG's offerings, but some may prefer the additional models and lower price that the iFly includes. For some casual simmers that aren't going to get into every point of accuracy and nuance system wise, then the iFly could be a suitable choice plus they offer a 30 day refund policy so you can try and get a refund if not satisfied.

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Track record is they were behind iFly with the NG not having RNP RF legs options and WX radar. Or even designing a correct looking cockpit.

 

Yep. Great track record. And so much for working with Boeing to 'replicate their aircraft as close as possible'.

maybe  you should  read  the post above  yours  says  it  all

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Hi,

 

The products produced by both developers are relative to the timeline each developer uses to base the aircraft on.

 

It is therefore not wise to compare two products with differing timelines.

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Let's not compare one released product to one that's not released. The Ifly vs PMDG threads always go round and round which speaks volumes on the quality of these two fine developers.

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I had it and returned it. Frame rates were terrible and vc night lighting textures were some of the worst I have seen. Glad Flight 1 had a return policy. 

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All I can say I asked for refund, reasons lots, as above comments frame rates awfull, , wing bending look like aircraft has shakes, no varation, just shakes up and down on runway, i like ifly stuff but this is not finished product to me by far.

 

Might be ok in another year

 

Mhazy

Ps dont start knocking me as this is my opinion, answer wait for pmdg

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I did. Hence my reply. Shouldn't believe everything you read on the box...

 

 

 

 

 

I say you just make stuff up. 

Make stuff up? Who are you to say I am a liar on a public forum?

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frame rates awfull

 

I'm no Flight1/iFly advocate but performance (especially considering FPS) has been improved with SP1a. I'd say it's similar to the 777 now.

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Considering no one has reported issues as such, and seems to be a common event to even post on the gold star award review stating non-existent issues, gotta make ya wonder...

Wonder all you want but I am going to report your personal attack to a moderator.  As a texture artist I will say again the night textures are horrible and the frame rates even with the update are not very good. 

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Wonder all you want but I am going to report your personal attack to a moderator.  As a texture artist I will say again the night textures are horrible and the frame rates even with the update are not very good.

 

I reported this as well. I wouldn't pay attention to Jon_aus as he's been caught before using other user names to bash products or this user name to support products like iFly.

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Member has been suspended for 7 days for trolling.  Hopefully he will not attempt to set up more accounts.  Thanks to those who reported the posts.

 

Best regards,

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Hi

In my other post I said I had refunded for this plane,but before doing this I thought I would take a look at the video posted first, and it talked about the 1a update.

 

Now I only bought this software a couple of days ago from flight 1 and assumed it would be uptodate, it wasnt, so I updated, and all I can say now is im in love with this aircraft, with frame rates now on my system of 60 to 150 its wow, most of the niggles I had have been done, so maybe i should have check before i post.

 

My fault, ok im a total dickhead etc. And to ifly sorry for knocking it, although maybe the latest vesrion should be sold and not outdated ones.

 

End result, buy buy but its superb

Mhazy

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[quote name="mhazy" post="3344509" timestamp="145080546

Now I only bought this software a couple of days ago from flight 1 and assumed it would be uptodate, it wasnt, so I updated, and all I can say now is im in love with this aircraft, with frame rates now on my system of 60 to 150

 

 

Like  to know  how  you can get  150  fps    using  the 747,  suppose  you could  if  you just running  default  scenery  and  nothing  else?

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Here is a review or first look at the plane. It's very complete. It's a serie of 3 videos

 

1.

2.

3.

 

Nice review.

 

The iFly looks good, but...worse VAS performance than the PMDG 777, which is known as a VAS hog?  Doesn't seem too promising.  Has anyone tested that aspect of it with P3D v3?

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Hi

Im running asn and utx europe,

I7 4.7 gtx 980ti 16g ram

Fsx steam

Around 80in default egnx

140 to 150 when at 20 plus thousand feet

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I have an older i7 2600 with 16GB RAM and a GTX 780. I will get OOM if I fly from flytampa cyul to flytampa cyyz. 

 

BUT - COMPLETELY flyable from default airport to default airport. 

 

Also running global, UT2 and open LC Canada/Alaska.

 

Hope this helps.

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I really like the aircraft.  The modeling is the best I have ever seen in any heavies every released for FSX/P3D.  If the FMC says you have to be at a certain flight level and certain speed at a waypoint, you are there at that flight level and speed whether going up or descending.  The only thing I do not really like is the wingview as the wings just do not look like a heavy (I zoom out to 30% at wingview making the wings look much longer and more realistic).  But, other than that, this is a keeper for me.  I have the frame rate locked at 20 and it is very smooth flying this aircraft.
 
I just completed a flight from KLAX to KSFO with ASN, GEP3D, UTX, FSDT KLAX, and FlightBeam KSFO HD enabled in P3Dv3.1.  Here is the result with the iFly747 as taken from the FSUIPC4:
 
This is just getting from the Startup screen to the loading of the aircraft:
 
32822 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.1.3.1 (SimConnect: 3.1.0.0)
32822 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
32822 FSUIPC Menu entry added
32838 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D_Default.fxml
32838 K:\Prepar3D_v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air
33415 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3258208
43103 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3113180
53087 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3113692
63071 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3113180
73164 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3007868
83164 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3059684
93397 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3055468
103381 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3012824 =2.87GB
107749 K:\Prepar3D_v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\iFly 744\iFly744_RR.air
113303 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2217104
123552 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1899444
133568 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1767600 =1.9GB
144269 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1251244                                                     (After loading the iFly .air file, the VAS drops dramatically)
145221 System time = 23/12/2015 16:05:38, Simulator time = 13:04:37 (21:04Z)
145221 Aircraft="iFly 747-400 RR (Wide screen) BA"
146188 Starting everything now ...
146266 ASN active function link set
146266 Ready for ASN WX radar
149433 Weather Mode now = Theme
151102 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
153973 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1166080                                                    (After the flight is loaded at LAX, the VAS drops even more)

 

Here's a comparison with the PMDG 772:

 

30576 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.1.3.1 (SimConnect: 3.1.0.0)
    30576 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
    30576 FSUIPC Menu entry added
    30592 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D_Default.fxml
    30592 K:\Prepar3D_v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air
    31076 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3206556
    40873 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3060176
    51106 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3074800
    61153 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3027956                                                (Before loading the .air file; about the same as the iFly744)
    68017 K:\Prepar3D_v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 777-200LR\B777-200LR.air
    93320 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2395140                                                (After loading the PMDG777 .air file, the VAS drops dramatically but not as much as the iFly744)
   103398 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2052776
   113600 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1976724
   123600 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1788244
   127625 System time = 23/12/2015 18:01:32, Simulator time = 13:00:21 (21:00Z)
   127625 Aircraft="PMDG 777-232LR Delta Air Lines"
   128670 Starting everything now ...
   128717 ASN active function link set
   128717 Ready for ASN WX radar
   131197 Weather Mode now = Theme
   133428 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 860512
   134036 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
   143428 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1165700                                          (After the flight is loaded at LAX, the VAS drops even more and about the same as the iFly744)

 

I stopped the flight with the PMDG 777 as the VAS usage was about the same or around 1GB of VAS remaining throughout the flight until nearing KSFO HD.  Then the VAS dropped to around 790MB's (as shown in the FSUIPC.log).  Here is the summary at the end of the iFly744 log:

 

Minimum frame rate was 9.5 fps, Maximum was 19.9 fps
Minimum available memory recorded was 461Mb    (this happened along the glideslope during the landing phase; ended up with 789MB's of VAS remaining).
Average frame rate for running time of 3858 secs = 19.3 fps
Memory managed: 1743 Allocs, 1743 Freed

 

Not scientific.  Every system is different but it gives everyone an idea as to the performance between the iFly744 and the PMDG772.  I'm completely happy with the results!!

 

Best regards,

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