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Discussion Thread for the "Ask Dovetail Games..." Thread!

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Any chance of a few new screenshots? I find myself checking the facebook page and this thread each day like a kid waiting for Christmas  :smile:

 

We can do one better than that. We should have a play through video with dev commentary coming this week if all goes to plan. 

 

- Martin 

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    I understand where you guys are coming from, but I tend to disagree if one considers these points. FSX Steam Edition is the most successful Flight Simulator ever on Steam. More sales in a few months

We can do one better than that. We should have a play through video with dev commentary coming this week if all goes to plan. 

 

- Martin 

 

Would be awesome. Hoping for that. 

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We can do one better than that. We should have a play through video with dev commentary coming this week if all goes to plan. 

 

- Martin 

That would be great Martin. Much appreciated.

Video and or screenshots of the UI would be interesting

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Video and or screenshots of the UI would be interesting

 

That is also on our list of things to show. Look out for some of them coming soon. 

 

- Martin 

Very good points by Dave ( aka dtrjones ), although I can also understand DVNT28's concerns and wants, which, IMHO, aren't necessarily meant to be bashing.

 

Thankyou, it good to see you understand.

Two or three new images on the main DTG Flight School website...

http://www.dtgflightschool.com/#news

 

A couple seem to show variations in the ground lighting, Dovetail are saying they've delayed a month because of various feedback.

So, cloud shadows, soft mountain shadows or anomaly?

 

Edit - Colours in the second shot look different, more natural, maybe they've altered that too.

 

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And the skies too! And the ground :-)

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Poppet :-

The Plane Models look really nice

 

Astonishing aren't they, they've really put the effort in. The rendering engine looks amazing too.


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And the skies too! And the ground :-)

 

Take a look at the ground under the Cherokees wing, it's more like GTA 5 than a normal flight sim.

Martin said a good while ago they were using ORBX for the higher altitude visuals and their own tech for lower to the ground. I might just be seeing things but that close up mountain terrain looks to be a higher polygon count than anything I've seen to date.

Two or three new images on the main DTG Flight School website...

http://www.dtgflightschool.com/#news

 

A couple seem to show variations in the ground lighting, Dovetail are saying they've delayed a month because of various feedback.

So, cloud shadows, soft mountain shadows or anomaly?

 

Edit - Colours in the second shot look different, more natural, maybe they've altered that too.

Neither of these images look very real to me. Sunsets and sunrises are not greyscale or anything close to it. They are the most colorful times of the day. The DTG FlightSchool teaser video has images that are not real life but yet look much more realistic than these two or any other preview shots that Ive seen.

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|   Dave   |    I've been around for most of my life.

There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.

The colors still look very odd to me, like they're running a post-processing filter for someone's idea of an artistic effect. This is on a color and gamma corrected pro graphics monitor, maybe not everyone else is seeing this? 

 

The first shot has the same purple-tinged skies they were showing before, and the second one actually has a hint of green in the sky color (RGB 166,171,165). When was the last time you saw a green sky? And why is the ground so dark? The plane looks good, but everything else looks off to me.

 

 

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Sunsets and sunrises are not greyscale or anything close to it. They are the most colorful times of the day

 

That's entirely weather and atmospherics dependent though. The second image looks overcast, does a decent job.

 

Paraffin :-

the second one actually has a hint of green in the sky color (RGB 166,171,165)

 

Is it possible they're tweaking? The greens would have been contributing a lot to the cyan / neon blues from the original images.

I wonder weather the colours are coming from their sky backdrops or their scattering code or something else?

They could be tweaking the underlying rendering engine, but colors that strange look more like a post-processing filter to me (which I hope they aren't using because that usually eats frame rate). I guess we'll know more after seeing some in-flight videos, since individual screenshots might have been altered in some way before distribution.

 

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That's entirely weather and atmospherics dependent though. The second image looks overcast, does a decent job.

Are we seeing the same image? It looks to be the Fair weather theme. visibility is good. you can see what i believe to be high cirrus and there are fair weather cumulus that arent very tall and coverage is probably 3/8ths.

 

pressure is probably high and since the air is clear there should be strong orange-red sunlight on the plane and clouds. The cloud shadows (the shadowed parts of the clouds) should be blue/blue-purple and the sky should be some form of blue. Things shouldnt go greyscale until after all light is leaving the sky well after the sun goes down...especially in those condtions.

 

During thunderstorms at sunset it is true that the low foglike clouds that appear yellowish brown during the day will appear blackish as the light is blocked from them but the towering cumulus will still have color and sometimes dramatic color. and the sky is still usually a blue or blue green (from what Ive seen).

 

The sky just doesnt lose color until the light goes away. even washed out as it gets, its still usually a blue.

 

ya know - I can handle 'artistry' - thats fine but one persons idea of reality shouldnt preclude anothers and I hope it will be possible to have colorful sunsets with the new DTG flightsim (and FlightSchool).

|   Dave   |    I've been around for most of my life.

There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.

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