Here is a quick IN THE RAW departure out of Taxi2Gate KSEA with AS16 this time ... VAS was around 3.4GB.  ATC had aircraft taking off from both directions on the same runway and I guess I encountered AS16 wake turbulence on takeoff (that was weird)?

 

Graphics settings included in video as well as showing VAS usage and VRAM usage.

 

 

Cheers, Rob.

I updated the United panel configs a while ago since they changed over from side by side to the regular style pfd/nd

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/472545-updated-united-737-700800900-panel-configs-in-here/

I am just doing a flight from T2G KSEA to FB KSFO, after reinstall of the P3D this afternoon. Loaded the flight 1900 Mb left, now in mid flight fsuipc shows 1579 mb of VAS left. Mind you that i only reinstalled these two airports, AS2016, ASCA, GSX and orbx global.  

and this is without any orbx regions ore airport scenery, well i think that all developers are going to feel the crunch in their sales for prepar3d if this continues, who wants to keep on buying scenery to enhance the sim if you can't make use of it anymore, what is the use of it , then just stick to the default scenery, 

I updated the United panel configs a while ago since they changed over from side by side to the regular style pfd/nd

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/472545-updated-united-737-700800900-panel-configs-in-here/

 

Seems like spot on. You have higher settings than i and my results around KSEA was 3.2GB with FTX PNW and HD2048 textures Normal Autogens and LOD at 4.5 (AS2016 1820Z)

 

 

Michael Moe

and this is without any orbx regions ore airport scenery, well i think that all developers are going to feel the crunch in their sales for prepar3d if this continues, who wants to keep on buying scenery to enhance the sim if you can't make use of it anymore, what is the use of it , then just stick to the default scenery, 

I agree, tomorrow i will try a flight with the fs2crew on board, and a flight from FT LGAV to FT EKCH. I am now 40 miles from top of descent and will report when i park at flightbeam SFO.

 

Update: When SFO loaded in the sim the vas dropped to 1300, but then retuned up to 1450, landed and parked to SFO with 1307 mb of vas. This was all in v3.4, pmdg 737, as2016, asca, orbx global and taxi2gate seattle and flightbeam SFO. nothing else is installed.

Will be very interesting to say the least and will then report my findings back here.

 

I'll certainly be interested in this! I hope you've made copious notes on your 3.4 findings.

 

 

While VAS consumption was more less similar between the both versions, the big difference was that 3.3.5 managed VAS recovery much better and more efficiently than 3.4

 

I stated pretty much identical words about 2 weeks ago in Rob's 'Optimize Parts' test thread. Didn't gain any traction at the time.

I think it was probably the part about wanting a download link for P3D v3.2 that got your post deleted, Richard. LM don't seem to like having to deal with previous iterative versions of a major release.

I think it was probably the part about wanting a download link for P3D v3.2 that got your post deleted, Richard. LM don't seem to like having to deal with previous iterative versions of a major release.

 

Yep, maybe you're right Christopher becasue they did seem almost upset when I asked about it also in the ticket I created where I asked them to unlock my license that for whatever reason got locked despite I was very careful to uninstall P3D before trying to reinstall it.

I just did a flight from FlyTampa Copenhagen to Orbx ESSA in the PMDG NGX. All Orbx Global stuff + AS16 and ASCA loaded (+ProATC/X). Started at gate B2 in EKCH with 1.35 Gb free VAS. At the gate in ESSA had 1 Gb free VAS. Strange how some flights are a problem with VAS and others are not...

I think it was probably the part about wanting a download link for P3D v3.2 that got your post deleted, Richard

 

I didn't delete your post on LM's forums or even see it for that matter, but IF it was about getting download links to V3.2 then yes I can see why LM would have deleted it ...

 

Richard, didn't we have a PM discussion about asking for older downloads?  Technically I should be deleting any public posts you make here (and have) about asking anyone for complete downloads of older P3D V3.2 ... that's also a violation of AVSIM ToS.

 

Cheers, Rob.

I didn't delete your post on LM's forums or even see it for that matter, but IF it was about getting download links to V3.2 then yes I can see why LM would have deleted it ...

 

Richard, didn't we have a PM discussion about asking for older downloads?  Technically I should be deleting any public posts you make here (and have) about asking anyone for complete downloads of older P3D V3.2 ... that's also a violation of AVSIM ToS.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

Hi there Rob,

 

I did write lots of posts the last couple of days or even weeks regarding this issue and trust me when I say I would have preferred spending that time being able to use my software instead.

 

However what I can't recall is me asking people in here in public for this other revision but if I did and by doing so violating some of the rules in here, please do go ahead and delete any such posts and my apologies and if that warrants a warning whatever that is I'm more than happy to have one of those too.

 

Personally I really can't see why this is such a sensitive topic. What we are talking about here is installation media that is totally useless unless you have bought a valid license. There's lots of software out there that is distributed fully legally in this way where you download the installation media for free and then you buy a license to activate the software. I think that sounds rather familiar to the majority of people in here.

 

In this particular case what has been up for discussion not only by me but lots of people is the difference between not even different versions of this software but different revisions...a software that I'm sure and do hope 99.99% of the people in here already bought a valid license for myself included.

 

Most of the time I try to be the nice guy which I think both you and most people in here would know that has been around for a while. I've been doing this for the last 5045 posts this one included and about 10 years or so both asking for and providing help but there are some things I don't appreciate...

 

One of them is being "hanged out" in the public for what almost feels like being a criminal when I'm as for from a criminal you could probably get.

 

Another one is paying good money for a software I'm not able to use and when trying to find a solution such as in this case reverting to a revision which I already paid for that was working better while the developer is addressing the issues in the most current version I get treated like a child with his hand in the jam jar.

 

I think I'll re-prioritize my time a bit going forward when it comes to communicating in forums vs enjoying myself using the software I paid for starting right now.

Hi Richard,

 

Per P3D EULA (specifically 4.3):

 

 

1.       License Restrictions.  Licensee shall not do or allow to be done, either directly or indirectly, any the following:

 

4.1    Reverse Engineer.  Reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or otherwise reduce the Software to a human-readable form (e.g., source code).

 

4.2    Modify.  Modify, adapt or translate the Software.

 

4.3    Publish.  Publish or otherwise disclose the Software for others to copy.

 

4.4    Transfer.  Sell, assign, sublicense, rent, lease, lend, subcontract, delegate or otherwise transfer, either in whole or in part, the Software, this EULA, any software key issued by Licensor to Licensee, or any right or obligation of Licensee under this EULA.

 

LM have never allowed multiple (prior) version downloads to be available since V2.0 (possibly earlier).  There is nothing I could find that suggests this feature would be or will be available.

 

Sorry for your frustration, but I'd recommend you start communication with both LM and 3rd party vendors involved regarding your other issues as it will take both to understand and attempt to replicate any issues you might be having.  I would avoid any discussion that would violate the EULA you agreed to when you purchased P3D.

 

I'd recommend you download all minor versions that you have paid for and store them in a safe place, if storage is a problem you can find very cheap 1TB external USB drives for about $45 here.

 

Cheers, Rob.

My (subjective, unscientific) findings with 3.4 on my system (4790, GTX 980TI, Win 8, HT off, no AM) so far (as for some reason my previous post was deleted):

 

- VAS consumption is similar to 3.3.5, but VAS recovery appears to be worse, which may result in OOM

 

- I get occasional 'camera' stutters with EZDOK/TrackIR with 3.4 that have not been there before (also tested with a newly created cameras.cfg).

 

- more blurries with photo scenery in 3.4 in heavy areas with lots of autogen or scenery objects. It takes longer until they get sharp around the aircraft. I also see this with textures of AI planes that stay black for a moment when turning my head (TrackIR) in their direction. Textures then appear with a delay.

 

Just my experience.

 

Cheers,

 

 

- more blurries with photo scenery in 3.4 in heavy areas with lots of autogen or scenery objects.

 

Same here, I don't have any VAS problem, (I won't speak further on this one ), but the major issue to me is the very late display of last LOD level using photo scenery.

 

I'm using mostly great FranceVFR scenery with lot of autogen and the famous 3DA technology for accurate building rendering: the last LOD level now appears below my aircraft which is quite invisible if you ride a classic GA. It take a paraglider and look below your foot to get it!

 

It could be the second time I might revert to an older version (3.3.5). Just waiting some time to see if LM will provide a hot fix (hopefully)