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Flight1 GNS 430/530 released

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Understand this is the P3D forum. My point is why would you in P3D or Steam be replacing an incompatible gauge (RXP). Why would it be there to start with?

You are not replacing the RXP gauges but the entries in the panel.cfg. For example, when I use the Lotussim L-39 in P3D the RXP models are useless because the RXP gauges are not compatible with P3D. Now I just click on "Replace Reality XP" and can use the L-39 RXP models with the Flight1 GNS.

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Tim

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Looks great!

 

I've been in a R44 and C172 with a GTN 750 and 650, respectively

 

It's still pretty new of a unit guys - the GNS units were hugely popular and still are - it will take time to see more and more acft equipped with GTN units

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There are many (mostly older) addons that have an RXP VC integration and work very well in P3D.

 

I must have missed those, even after visiting multiple FS forums daily. Please enlighten me! As far as I know the RXP Garmins do not work in P3D...

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I must have missed those, even after visiting multiple FS forums daily. Please enlighten me! As far as I know the RXP Garmins do not work in P3D...

Of course, they are not working! The point is that one can use the RXP VC integration for the Flight1 GNS. The "problem" with A2A is that they have removed the RXP VC integration for the P3D version of their addons. But older addons like the mentioned L-39 have RXP models that can be used for the Flight1 GNS in P3D.

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Tim

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It is easy to change the two gauge lines from "RXP" to "F1" by hand.. and add UNITxx.

 

One for the VC, one for the popup window.

 

So, if you have an RXP compatible plane that works in P3D, but the RXP GNS does not work, you can make the required changes by hand, using Notepad, in less than 5 minutes.

Bert

 

 


But older addons like the mentioned L-39 have RXP models that can be used for the Flight1 GNS in P3D.

 

D/N know that.  Have to say that this new availability of GNS 430 and 530 overcomes the main barrier I had for installing or especially migrating to P3D.  I occasionally ride real world right seat with a friend who has a 430/530 setup in his C310 and he likes my assistance.  I also ride along in another friends Piper Aztec, also 430 equipped.  I enjoy the GTN750 I use in some FSX models, but use of the RXP GNS units in other aircraft are more my baseline.  I have some FSX aircraft set up with versions for each series of GPS.

 

Has anyone so far tried in P3D with the F1 GNS to save a flight plan from the F1 GNS units to a *.flt file? Right click on the memory slot below the row of buttons on the GNS.  Wondering if these are a migration of the RXP units.  If it works you should hear a quick beep and a file will be written to the P3D Files folder on your computer from which you should be able to load it.  (the directory where P3D flight plans and saved flights are stored).

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Looks like all the bases are covered now.

 

You can either choose "old" or "new," and both are supported by F1.

 

I see this as a good thing!

 

Bill Clark

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Has anyone so far tried in P3D with the F1 GNS to save a flight plan from the F1 GNS units to a *.flt file? Right click on the memory slot below the row of buttons on the GNS.  Wondering if these are a migration of the RXP units.  If it works you should hear a quick beep and a file will be written to the P3D Files folder on your computer from which you should be able to load it.  (the directory where P3D flight plans and saved flights are stored).

 

In the RXP units, it is actually right-clicking on the FPL button that saves the flight plan.. but that is not mentioned in the Flight1 user guide, so I would say: No.

Ridiculous prices.

Garmin provides the core of the application for free, Flight1 only has to develop an interface to FSX/P3D plus maybe a ui-wrapper

 

But this is standard practice of Flight1 during the last years.

In earlier days, I considered them as the very best, now those times are long gone.

Now I consider them as very greedy and avoid them as much as possible.

 

Interesting perspective..

 

I think Flight1 is one of the premier outfits in the flightsim industry with great solid products and outstanding support.  Sometimes you have to pay for quality..  B)

Bert

 

 


In the RXP units, it is actually right-clicking on the FPL button that saves the flight plan.. but that is not mentioned in the Flight1 user guide, so I would say: No.

 

I know! Just waiting for someone to try to see it it works in the F1 units. Seen speculation that the F1 units may be a migration of the RXP units. Likely just speculation but would be interesting to try and see what happens.


Has Flight1 announced if crossfill is planned for a future upgrade?

 

The product announcement and the product page both say at a later date for additional cost.  Something similar was said two years ago about the GTN units but it did not happen and the GTN product page appears to now say just not available - with no more mention of the future.  

 

Honestly, I only use a single GTN750 in the panels where I use it. Using two simultaneously in the two or three aircraft models I tried caused stuttering and frame rate issues.  My moving map when using a bird with a GTN is now my iPad linked to FSX via the FltPlan.Go app.  Do not know if that app can also link to P3D.

Frank Patton
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What about the database?  is it the same as the GTN series?

 

Kdub

What about the database?  is it the same as the GTN series?

 

Kdub

 

Same database, just different name.

Seen speculation that the F1 units may be a migration of the RXP units. Likely just speculation but would be interesting to try and see what happens.

 

Based on what I have seen, this is a re-write.. and comes with Flight1 support...

 

A welcome feature  :smile:

Bert

My question:  Just yesterday, I was looking at the Mindstar gauges.  Mindstar offers a 430/530 package which works both in FSX and Prepar3d for $49.95.  To get the same deal from Flight 1, it appears that I would have to spend over $200 (buy each gauge separately for both FSX and P3d -- a total of four purchases.  It also looks like I would have to manually install both gauges no matter which one I purchased.  So why should I prefer the F1 version over the Mindstar version?

 

As a follow up:  The Mindstar gauges apparently do not work in Carenado/Alabeo aircraft.  Do the F1 gauges work in them?

 

I am just trying to decide whether I want to buy any of these gauges.

Thomas J. Streak

The Flight1 and Mindstar gauges are totally different simulations of the GNS series.

 

Suggest you have a really good look at the feature set for both and decide what you want in your airplanes.

 

Do you fly both FSX and P3D?  ie do you need two sets?

 

Do you want the Garmin units to operate exactly like the real gauges, or is an approximation good enough?  Do you fly LPV approaches?

 

etc

 

Either way, you are going to be doing some manual installation work, so be prepared for that.

Bert

I hear they removed the keys to hardware link so you cannot program your Go flight hardware to operate the GNS530. You are now stuck with operating it only with your mouse.

Manny

Beta tester for SIMStarter 

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