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P3D V4 speculation thread - may as well

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Just because he's a little bit 'provoking', doesn't necessary mean that he's wrong... or at least has a point.

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Has there been any more recent developments the past two weeks regarding new news coming out on v4?

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Has there been any more recent developments the past two weeks regarding new news coming out on v4?

 

Two weeks have gone by.... :wink:

 

 

 

Going by the past, would expect something in later half of the year I guess

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Whatever happened to DirectX 12 support which initially was touted to have add'l value for offloading CPU work too the GPU?  This seems critical now in the age of very marginal processing gains in CPU iterations.  I had been hoping that was coming in V4 P3D.

Noel

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That'll lock everyone in to Windows 10. That's not a very popular move.

Wouldn't that completely depend on what DirectX 12 brings to the table?

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

To some extent yes.. I'm sure if DX12 proved to provide 60+fps even with complex add ons, it would get some people to switch to Windows 10 (who haven't already) but many others would be quite sore indeed about having to make the switch... trust me :) And I say that as someone who moved to Windows 10 exclusively about 8 months ago.

Considering PMDG constant claims they know nothing of planned or ongoing 64bit development, I somehow fail to see how ORBX would have an access to the new SDK and PMDG not even aware of such in existence. 

 

ORBX will probably release something really anticlimactic like new version of ther 64bit FTX Central for "easier" download :P

 

Also, I don't OOM beucase I don't leave my planes to fly themselves for several hours, and that's pretty much the only thing 64bit *could* help with, without alternating all the legacy FSX code.  This, and making us rebuy addons. Not really optimistic about this one. 

 

 


Also, I don't OOM beucase I don't leave my planes to fly themselves for several hours, and that's pretty much the only thing 64bit *could* help with

 

64 bit is not just going to help rid of OOM's. It will help a lot of things. You know you're in a 32bit sim because every time you change view, you watch all your 3d objects get redrawn right before your eyes. When your program is running, it's loading and unloading textures from memory all the time and that's where the memory bottleneck causes issues. Just because it's not causing a fatal crash doesn't mean it's not an issue. All that extra activity is going to rob you from performance in a big way.

Jim Shield

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And I say that as someone who moved to Windows 10 exclusively about 8 months ago.

 

I'm glad you mentioned that because I am shopping for a new laptop for general computing and most ship w/ Windows 10.   Is it flight simming that's not been good in Win 10, or general computing or both?  This laptop is just for general computing, no gaming, no simming.

 

Thanks

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I'm glad you mentioned that because I am shopping for a new laptop for general computing and most ship w/ Windows 10.   Is it flight simming that's not been good in Win 10, or general computing or both?  This laptop is just for general computing, no gaming, no simming.

 

Thanks

 

 

There's nothing wrong with W10. It works as well with swimming as W7. 

 

From a computing standpoint, it's more optimized and more capable than W7. While there was a period where W7 was preferable to W8 and early W10, that period has passed IMO. The kinks are worked out. 

 

Remember how some wanted to stick with XP forever even when it no longer made rational sense? We'll have to go through that again before most switch. 

Great, thanks.  I have operated under the belief that Macbook/MBP are built to last better than consumer-grade Windows laptops.  I am using a 5y/o MBP and it's been flawless, used every day for 2-4 hours, but finally the wifi antenna became compromised so its receptivity has gone into the toilet and it's $300 to fix it.  Fortunately I found a $9 USB wifi adaptor that has improved its range now to where it's useable again.  But the entire unit has lots of hours and an SSD that's quite full so I thought I'd upgrade.   

 

I wonder what would be a solid PC brand laptop that is built to last.  Should I maybe look at 'business' laptops?  I understand they might be built to a high standard.  I have enjoyed no virus/malware in 5y on the MBP.  I may end up w/ another MBP as long as I can get a 2015 model as the '16-17s I would not want.  Oops, gone all tangential here!

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I wonder what would be a solid PC brand laptop that is built to last.  Should I maybe look at 'business' laptops?  I understand they might be built to a high standard.  I have enjoyed no virus/malware in 5y on the MBP.  I may end up w/ another MBP as long as I can get a 2015 model as the '16-17s I would not want.  Oops, gone all tangential here!

Just remember that you can only compare your MBP to a Windows laptop if they're similar in price.

I've had family bash their old computer after moving to mac... they forget they paid about 4 times the price for the max so the comparison is hardly fair.

 

I haven't tried to game on a laptop so I can't make a suggestion, but don't limit yourself to a laptop with an SSD. I found when shopping for my laptop that it's still not common place. You can always replace the HDD with one or get a computer store to do it.

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