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Whats after 747 v3? I have a suggestion

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Hello,

Since the 747 v3 project is wrapping up a lot of people are wondering what is next after the 747 v3 and 748 expansion. A suggestion I have is a plane that hasn't been done since 2010 and is a popular long haul jet that has been in use for upwards of 20 years. This is the only boeing plane that has not been done as a high quality add on. Yes I am talking about the famous 767. The 767 has had a staple on aviation for its entire lifetime and is popularly used on long and short haul routes. The 767 I think would be perfect for the PMDG team especially the 767-400. If you do not know the 767-400 has never been done and its cockpit is essentially was the test platform for the 777. These would be a perfect add-on aircraft for the long haulers and some short haulers. the 767-300 could also be done but would be a bit of a challenge for the PMDG team as the PFD and MFD are of the older kind but does have some resemblence to the Jetstream J4100's PFD and MFD. Anyway this was just a suggestion to the PMDG team and I would think it would be the perfect aircraft to complete the entire Boeing line up.

Thanks!,

Joseph DePaola

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While I appreciate the enthusiasm, I'm always somewhat startled by the number suggestions that creep up at the end of a development cycle. The assumption seems to be "well, now that you're done, you must just now be thinking about things that you might do next." The reality is that we've already had that discussion, and in order to minimize the number of people idly standing by without direction on what to do next, that discussion happened quite a long time ago. This enables us to roll people off of a project when they're done, and onto a new project, even while some of the others are finishing up the current project.

 

...you just haven't been told what it is yet.

 

...or more accurately, you haven't been told what all of it is yet.  :ph34r:

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I think that DC-6 for FSX/P3D will be looking really good after 747v3.  With the DC-6, Connie, Strat, MJ's DC-3, we starting to get a nice line of vintage propliners......what I wouldn't give for a full on Beech 18 sim from A2A, PMDG, Milviz or someone.

 

I would laugh my &@($* off, if even for a joke, PMDG put up a thread 'Announcing PMDG Cri Cri!'  Just look up the Cri Cri if you don't know what it is.  

 

Seriously tho, you guys should take a little vacation after 747v3, enjoy the fruits of your labor, then come back, wrap up the DC, then into whatever is next.

 

Thanks for all you do.

 

Cheers

TJ

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Forget about new developments, updates to existing products and introductions to new sims such as X-Plane for all existing products would be nice!  

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The kind of response pmdg gets to merely changing their Facebook dp is remarkable.

Why not try posting a MD 11 photo a 767 and a 757, whichever plane gets the beast response... Makes its plsssss

I'm sure people will lose their minds.

 

 

 

MD 11 v2? Plsssss?

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Not another 767 thread..

Just idle prattle until our new Queen arrives...

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MD 11 v2? Plsssss?
I would actually bet on this never happening. After the first MD11, I think we would have a better chance of a DC8 than a revamped MD11. I say DC8 because RSR loves quads.

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While I appreciate the enthusiasm, I'm always somewhat startled by the number suggestions that creep up at the end of a development cycle. The assumption seems to be "well, now that you're done, you must just now be thinking about things that you might do next." The reality is that we've already had that discussion, and in order to minimize the number of people idly standing by without direction on what to do next, that discussion happened quite a long time ago. This enables us to roll people off of a project when they're done, and onto a new project, even while some of the others are finishing up the current project.

 

...you just haven't been told what it is yet.

 

...or more accurately, you haven't been told what all of it is yet.  :ph34r:

Makes total business sense that would be done. But it would be nice to know if there is some consideration to what the community has been asking for alot. Clearly there is a strong demand for the 767/757 projects which is severely lacking as an aircraft for p3d/fsx, and while available data would be the primary consideration, user community input should also be up there in importance.

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I know it's fantasy from a commercial point of view, but I would love to see an MD11 v2. Something different from another Boeing please, much as I love them! I'm sure the powers that be at PMDG have something interesting in mind for us.

 

Martin Lewis

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My guesses:

 

- DC6 for FSX/P3D

- Rolling new 747v3 features/platform developments into 777 & NGX updates

- NGX overhaul hinted at before by PMDG staff

- 777-200ER + engine variations

- Porting NGX, 777, 747v3 to X-Plane

- Secret 'Pigeon Works' project

 

Enough work to do...

 

Remember, this is the first time PMDG will have a line of 3 product series on the same technical platform, with roughly the same quality and fidelity: the first time PMDG has a consistent suite of products on offer, which is quite an accomplishment given the length of the development cycles. The 747v3 is the apex of 10 years of tech development, starting with the JS4100 'proof of concept' in 2007/2008 something (I think?).

 

Maintenance of this lineup and underlying platform will also require development resources, I would imagine.  :smile:

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MD 11 v2? Plsssss?

 

PMDG has said that sales of their MD11 were very disappointing, so doubtful.

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Makes total business sense that would be done. But it would be nice to know if there is some consideration to what the community has been asking for alot. Clearly there is a strong demand for the 767/757 projects which is severely lacking as an aircraft for p3d/fsx, and while available data would be the primary consideration, user community input should also be up there in importance.

Earlier, I addressed the implication that we don't think ahead. I don't think it's too far of a stretch to think that, if we think ahead, we also address the business case for what we're potentially going to devote our resources to. Part of that would be "what would sell."

 

Ignoring customers isn't going to get a company too far, but do keep in mind that our user base is much larger than this forum.

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Personally I'm just looking forward to whatever it is. By the time it's released we could possibly have a P3D 64bit version and the scope this would give the PMDG guys is beyond my comprehension.

Having said that I would like to see the T7 updated with the other variants, particularly the 200ER

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727 in all forms.

A plane where you have to actually do some work to fly it not single button do it all.

I love my 777F though :D

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I think they will rework-update the NG...I hope. 

 

757 - 767? bit old now.

 

Dreamliner would be very nice.

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I think they will rework-update the NG...I hope. 

 

757 - 767? bit old now.

 

Dreamliner would be very nice.

Yeah, it's an older aircraft, but still beautiful and highly used in real life and still in production. The 747-400 is quite old too.

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Forget about new developments, updates to existing products and introductions to new sims such as X-Plane for ALL existing products would be nice!  

 

Man, nobody's asking so much, I'd be in heaven with just ONE liner

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Perhaps some day Robert will bring his DC-3 into the virtual world.  We can only hope. I imagine it could be the next 'side project' after the DC-6.  Tho as much as a DC-3 is awesome, there is one plane that I would get carpal tunnel from flying....the Howard 500.  How about it PMDG, a Howard 500 'side project'...be bold, like the plane.  Seriously, you go to a flight line and you see rows of "boring" King Airs, Citations...etc  A Howard 500 shows up.  Which plane on that line is going to turn heads....thats what I thought!  :wink:   I'm not lying either, the Howard 500 showed up to an NBAA Bizjet showcase in Las Vegas a year or two ago.  While surrounded by the latest Gulfstreams, Globals, Lears...etc, the Howard was the hit of the show.

 

Speaking of Bizjets tho.  I hope PMDG seriously consider officially 'BBJ'izing the NGX.  The long range biz jet is still one of the gaping holes in the FS community.  Gulfstream won't let their planes be done, Aerosoft's CRJ has been in the works so long, I bet they are sick and tired of CRJs lol, so I doubt they would consider morphing it into it's Global Express cousin.  PMDG has said that those types of Bizjets are so complex that they would require practically the same manpower as the regular tubeliners.  The BBJ is the logical choice, considering most of the legwork is already done.  The long range bizjet just opens up so many more city pairs.  Take off from 5000ft runway, fly 5000nm, land at another 5000ft runway.

 

Anyway, I know FS is not some factory where you can just wave a magic wand.  Any project requires loads of manhours and $$$ for R&D, even for 'simple' aircraft changes, like changing a powerplant.  A2A thought about doing a Cherokee 235 after the Cherokee 180, but realized even a 'simple' engine upgrade, along with the affected FD/structual data changes would require too much work.  It was much better to put those manhours on other projects.  Anything in FS is always MUCH easier said than done.  

 

So, whatever works

CHeers

TJ

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I think we would have a better chance of a DC8 than a revamped MD11. I say DC8 because RSR loves quads.

 

 

So, I guess that means we're in with a shot at the Ilyushin 86  :wink:

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