Decisions, Decisions.

[devgrp 1,233]

3 hours ago, fppilot said:

It is just not the same for everyone, so this one-size-fits-all does not resonate well.  Especially when a mere matter-of-fact post is responded to in such manners.  Please revisit my first post in this topic.

https://flightsim.to/file/13440/kesn-easton

There are lots of airports that the ai didn't capture and it's left blank but why let that stop you? It took me 2 minutes to to find this freeware. It's not much but it's a better option. I have lots of these little small airports 

[Noel 4,499]

4 hours ago, Janov said:

Come to think of it - there is NOTHING but better visuals that MSFS has on X-Plane, really.

He said to the blind man, "Come to think of it, there is NOTHING but seeing everything that sighted people have on blind people, really...."   

This is really the crux of the problem when you compare decades old FSX/P3D/XP to less than one year old MSFS by reducing the entire environment in MSFS to "visuals".   Gee, let's see let's trade in the vastly superior immersive real world from atmosphere, lighting, shadowing, coloration on down to fine detail on the ground and wind-driven whitecaps in water, for let's see.... VTOL aircraft (coming I'm sure), oh, let's not forget landing on aircraft carriers (coming I'm sure) and all of the rest.    

[Bobsk8 12,702]

10 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

And he is a so called "real world Pilot" defending his game. Just a lame duck you ask me. No real world pilots on the streams bash MSFS like this dude does. So.

I have known  a few  real world pilots, that I wouldn't trust to walk my dog. There  are so many real career pilots now flying MSFS 2020, and making very positive comments and videos  about it. These pilots  wouldn't waste their time trolling a forum about a sim they don't even own. 

Edited July 25, 2021 by Bobsk8

[Bobsk8 12,702]

5 minutes ago, Noel said:

He said to the blind man, "Come to think of it, there is NOTHING but seeing everything that sighted people have on blind people, really...."   

This is really the crux of the problem when you compare decades old FSX/P3D/XP to less than one year old MSFS by reducing the entire environment in MSFS to "visuals".   Gee, let's see let's trade in the vastly superior immersive real world from atmosphere, lighting, shadowing, coloration on down to fine detail on the ground and wind-driven whitecaps in water, for let's see.... VTOL aircraft (coming I'm sure), oh, let's not forget landing on aircraft carriers (coming I'm sure) and all of the rest.    

And one more thing, unlike XP, MSFS doesn't have haze everywhere you look. 

[ThrottleUp 617]

I have MSFS and XP11 on my system and enjoy both in equal measure. MSFS for me excels at low and slow GA because of the visuals. I hop into XP11 for a Zibo B738 fix as that is just a fantastic freeware 738.

Im not a fanboi of either platform. To me they both bring their relevant strengths to the table. When up at FL390 visuals dont really matter and the only time I notice of course is on the taxi/takeoff/climb/short finals/landing/taxi stages of the flight. 

In fact not until too long ago I had 4 aviation games on my system, I uninstalled two of them - FSX & DCS.

If you have the space and still enjoy FSX then keep it. Just dont spend any more on it. Keep it as is. One thing I'll recommend is to put MSFS on its own dedicated drive. I've put mine on a 2TB but will likely get a 4 or 8TB as it grows. I think the Community folder is gonna go ballistic lol. 

[SAPilot 213]

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

And one more thing, unlike XP, MSFS doesn't have haze everywhere you look. 

That was the first thing that caught my eye last year when I gave the XP what what trial a go some months before the MSFS release. Just used it to kill time, just retired and COVID started.

I even gave P3D a shot .. hahaha. When MSFS 2020 came along just a week later I wiped them both.

[David Mills 4,763]

6 hours ago, BEARlyThereCDN said:

I haven't fired up FSX since the beginning of the pandemic but I do find myself flying my TBM 930 nearly every day in MSFS 2020.

There's an old saying about whether to throw something away: "If you haven't used it in 90 days, discard it."

[reignman40 450]

5 hours ago, 177B said:

I had well over $1,000.00 of X-plane addons and lots of freeware as well. Lots of customized instrument panels in AirManager. And a few Arduino custom built autopilot and other controls for X-plane.

Well about 2 months ago I launched XP for the first time in a few months, and after about 5 minutes decided it was history.

I have 3 SSD's one M.2. And I had over 2 TB of X-plane extras.

Now I have tons of space and FS2020 seems faster than ever, especially loading. Maybe due to recent updates.

I may go back and try X-plane again if they really update it, but I doubt it.

I now have all my custom built Arduino and LeoBodnar stuff running perfectly in FS2020. So for me it was a no brainer to dump old out dated sim stuff.

This keeps things simpler. And it is easier to only have to deal with one set of idiosyncrasies. 

Over the years I have used just about every sim available starting in the 80's, actually in the 70's with a TI99-4A, I think it was.

I tend to always just stay with the best available at the time. So for me this was an easy decision. 

Here is a video of a friend of mine who is a pilot flying around his home airport in Florida a few days ago, he is planning on setting up his own system now.

 

 

What pop-out panel is that?

[Todd2 2,097]

7 minutes ago, David Mills said:

There's an old saying about whether to throw something away: "If you haven't used it in 90 days, discard it."

Half of my stuff would be gone but my computer and MSFS would still be here.  😉

[177B 730]

14 minutes ago, reignman40 said:

What pop-out panel is that?

I assume you are referring to AirManager on the lower screen. It is actually a touch screen and it has a Knobster attached.

The Knobster is a 3 function knob like the one on Garmin GPS's (push, large dial and small dial) You just touch the knob on the panel you want to adjust and now you have a hardware knob to turn and push. 

I build panels for all the different planes I have. It makes it much easier to use the instruments and radios AP's etc..

Here is where you buy the AirManager, it is now very mature with FS2020, it has been around along time for X-plane, FSX and P3D. I highly recommend it and a touch screen to go with it.

https://siminnovations.com

[rka 916]

3 hours ago, TASCHMANN said:

"High Praise Indeed"

I think you've found the key to satisfaction with MSFS---Just keep any and all expectations as low as you can.

What would any of us have thought, last August, if we knew that the quoted statement would be offered as a compliment eleven months after release.

Managing expectations is really key here I guess. I'm actually happy with how everything is going and I was hoping it would turn out somehow like this. I hope to spend 1000s of hours with this software - and compared to basically all other software I did spend large amounts of time with, almost everything is better, be it development speed, customer openness, duration of beta phase, general state of product upon release, whatever really.

[ryanbatc 12,846]

I uninstalled FSX about 6 years ago.  I uninstalled P3D the moment I got into the MSFS alpha test.  I still have XP11 installed but only to beta test and occasionally use RXP GTN.

 

 

 

[fppilot 4,368]

4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

There is something really wrong with his PC. 

No! That default airport looks the same on your system, as well as a number of other airports.  Already verified in this running topic.

Edited July 25, 2021 by fppilot

[JBDB-MD80 1,473]

55 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I uninstalled FSX about 6 years ago.  I uninstalled P3D the moment I got into the MSFS alpha test.  I still have XP11 installed but only to beta test and occasionally use RXP GTN.

 

 

 

So? I still have FSX on my hardrive and goddam never investetd in P2D yeah i said it. Never got into the xplane hype. and clinging on to MSFS. its do or die for me on this platorrm or just quit . no mor GTN or Active sky addons on in the past that cost hundreds of dollars.

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2021 by jbdbow1970

[Saffa_Jake812 36]

2 hours ago, ThrottleUp said:

I have MSFS and XP11 on my system and enjoy both in equal measure. MSFS for me excels at low and slow GA because of the visuals. I hop into XP11 for a Zibo B738 fix as that is just a fantastic freeware 738.

Same here - I reckon my sim time is split 70/30 between MSFS/XP.

For XP I still enjoy flying the Zibo 73, Toliss busses, Hotstart TBM and that sexy iniBuilds A300. And to make it worse they have the Q400 coming and the Hotstart Challenger 650. I don't want to spent more money on XP but those incoming planes look really good.

However, with MSFS - every time I depart an airport, there is this voice in my head that is like: Mate, this is just bloody incredible.

Also, I was not expecting spending this much time and having so much fun in an old DC6 pulling levers and hitting switches....