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Why do they make it so hard? Alpha India Group

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I've been an AIG user for years now, and yes, there is a bit of some user setup involved, but for those that pride themselves devouring systems manuals it shouldn't be all that daunting. As far as waiting for Asobo to resolve bugs....well...a bird in hand.....also kudos to Kai and the crew for getting this out to us to enjoy, for free no less. Amazing the amount of work that goes into this stuff, and it will only get better as Asobo solves some AI issues.

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7 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

It’s all a bit of a bug fest. I mean I love the effort that has been put in to it, but, why release it now? …

 

6 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I agree, this is too buggy for release right now, I have remove it and will wait for the final release.

Please remember that this is a PUBLIC BETA, in fact a couple of issues that were not detected during the closed beta have already surfaced and are being dealt with.

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8 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

It’s all a bit of a bug fest. I mean I love the effort that has been put in to it, but, why release it now? Why not wait until Asobo fix the bugs? Why not polish it off a little and release it with a proper video/pdf guide? I’m sure there would be loads of people willing to help with the latter? 

I think you'll find the clue is in the name. Its a PUBLIC BETA. They are very clear on that. 

And waiting for Asobo to fix the bugs may take...well, forever. I'm of the thought that perhaps will the spotlight now being shone on all of these AI Traffic bugs (given the huge popularity of AIG) that we're more likely to see Asobo actually do something about them.

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I have no bugs at all, except for having to kill the AIM and restart if it doesn't load every once in a while. Sure, some liveries might be buggy (haven't seen one personally), but anything else seems Asobo default bugs (esp. AI), so what bugs are we talking about?

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9 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

It’s all a bit of a bug fest. I mean I love the effort that has been put in to it, but, why release it now? Why not wait until Asobo fix the bugs? Why not polish it off a little and release it with a proper video/pdf guide? I’m sure there would be loads of people willing to help with the latter? 
 

PS, I am not having a go, great addon, I am just  expressing my genuine opinion. 

They released it now so those of us who want to use it in its current state can, alternatively waiting for Asobo to fix the bugs could be years away so in the meantime AIG have this fabulous tool gathering dust if they don't release now.

Sure the lack of decent documentation is a stumbling block and even the official AIG settings are incorrect to some degree, but at least we have something and as above it's clearly stated as an Alpha/Beta so people are pre warned it may not be pretty.

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8 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

 

Double post

Edited by MarcG

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Hi,

I installed it yesterday on a rainy day on a weekend-nearly 6 hours and ok, it´s working and I will use it, until something better and easier is comming out.

I think,that is what people want, most of the "new" simmer want a little more action on the Airport unless it is e real flighplan or not.

They want-klick-Install-working.

This is the Unix under the Traffictools 😉

Stephan from Germany

 

My System

From my perspective, it's one of the best addons available for MSFS so far. Yes i occasionally have to restart it, but wow, what a change this addon makes to the flight sim.

And to think these guys have done this for free... some seem to forget that.

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3 hours ago, Car147 said:

And to think these guys have done this for free... some seem to forget that.

No one is forgetting that… however, just because something is free, doesn’t mean you can’t criticise it. If someone gives me a free burger, and it’s horrible, I won’t eat it. 

14 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

No one is forgetting that… however, just because something is free, doesn’t mean you can’t criticise it. If someone gives me a free burger, and it’s horrible, I won’t eat it. 

Oh dear..

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22 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

No one is forgetting that… however, just because something is free, doesn’t mean you can’t criticise it. If someone gives me a free burger, and it’s horrible, I won’t eat it. 

May those that don't want any have fond memories of not getting any.

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1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

No one is forgetting that… however, just because something is free, doesn’t mean you can’t criticise it. If someone gives me a free burger, and it’s horrible, I won’t eat it. 

If you find AIG "horrible" I clearly have to doubt your taste.

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

Why can't we (and by we, I mean me included, I'm a software engineer with a aeronautical background) do something like this out in the open?

This is 2021, the vast majority of "free" software is on GitHub and can be contributed to by anyone who is willing to take a stab at it.  Look at Working Title.

https://github.com/Working-Title-MSFS-Mods/fspackages

I don't understand this sign-up/email gating ... and I especially don't understand people on here defending this as "if you don't like free software, don't use it!".

That's fine, except there are better ways to develop free software.

Perhaps in my free time I should look into this.

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