FLYSIMWARE Cessna 414AW Chancellor Snippet 1

[dbw1 444]

Are you able within the confines of MSFS to have a reasonably correct interaction between throttles, prop levers and mixture  levers movements? Thanks.

[bobcat999 8,444]

1 hour ago, dbw1 said:

Are you able within the confines of MSFS to have a reasonably correct interaction between throttles, prop levers and mixture  levers movements? Thanks.

It depends on what individual people define as reasonable.  

I would say 90% realistic, and it certainly gives you a good indication of what you would have to do to control them, but it isn't dead accurate according to some.
Some turbos are 'normalised' (like the Rob Young G36), so potentially, the mixture would work differently on those.

The mixture needs some work on all aircraft though.  I think Asobo noted this about a year ago, but not sure anything has been done since then.
For instance, on non-turbo pistons, around 5000 feet, I have to lean to about 40% on the mixture to hold peak power - not sure if that is realistic?  Maybe a proper pilot would know.

EDIT:  Sorry, just realised this was probably aimed at the developers.  The same situation would apply though.  Unless they have an 'externally coded' system for the engines, they will have to work hard to get the current Asobo logic to fit the numbers, just like everyone else. 

Edited March 3, 2022 by bobcat999

[dbw1 444]

Bobcat999, Thanks for the reply. I'm a retired pilot. When engine responses to inputs are unrealistic that kind of kills it for me. I was interested how close within the limits of MSFS they were able to get. One of the best I've seen was the RealAir Duke for P3d. Cheers.

[ryanbatc 12,775]

1 hour ago, dbw1 said:

Bobcat999, Thanks for the reply. I'm a retired pilot. When engine responses to inputs are unrealistic that kind of kills it for me. I was interested how close within the limits of MSFS they were able to get. One of the best I've seen was the RealAir Duke for P3d. Cheers.

I enjoy this new sim but I too am frustrated by the lack of regard for proper flight modelling and engine performance/simulation.  I see why some people stay with previous sims.  Still though, this C414 appears to be the best addon I've seen yet - so I will partake, in hopes that the developer and others will continue to invest in the sim (even when others dumb down their products for the masses).

[dbw1 444]

38 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I enjoy this new sim but I too am frustrated by the lack of regard for proper flight modelling and engine performance/simulation.  I see why some people stay with previous sims.  Still though, this C414 appears to be the best addon I've seen yet - so I will partake, in hopes that the developer and others will continue to invest in the sim (even when others dumb down their products for the masses).

I agree. I'll watch reviews when it arrives and will probably buy as the creators have produced decent aircraft before in other sims and generally turn out a good product. I'd like to have a good pressurized piston twin.

[Chairman 8]

12 hours ago, dbw1 said:

I agree. I'll watch reviews when it arrives and will probably buy as the creators have produced decent aircraft before in other sims and generally turn out a good product. I'd like to have a good pressurized piston twin.

Just remember Mark keeps updating his planes for months (sometimes even years) after they get released so anything negative the reviews find will inevitably be fixed at some point, and if the review is more than a couple of months old it's probably obsolete 🙂

[Flysimware 647]

User manual is available here. Beta release should be Monday March 24 if no issues. 

https://flysimware.com/website2019/msfs2020-aircraft-helicopters/

Edited March 16, 2022 by Flysimware

[psychedelic_tortilla 170]

That's amazing news!

Just to confirm, on the product page of the C414 it says estimated release March 21. Is this the correct date, or March 28? 

[turbomax 3,268]

5 minutes ago, psychedelic_tortilla said:

Is this the correct date,

FLYSIMWARE

Estimated release Monday March-21-2022 6 pm PST

This is a beta version ONLY

customers that may purchase do not expect a perfect product as their (sic) 😊 is always some tweaks that need to be addressed.

Edited March 15, 2022 by turbomax

[MrBitstFlyer 3,825]

On 3/3/2022 at 4:38 PM, ryanbatc said:

I enjoy this new sim but I too am frustrated by the lack of regard for proper flight modelling and engine performance/simulation.  I see why some people stay with previous sims.  Still though, this C414 appears to be the best addon I've seen yet - so I will partake, in hopes that the developer and others will continue to invest in the sim (even when others dumb down their products for the masses).

I love flying VFR/IFR with single or twin engine GA in MSFS, yet I still use XP11 regularly when I want to practice IFR for the reasons you state.  I wish I could take the trim implementation from XP11 and put it into MSFS!

MSFS is a stunning sim, but not yet the one and only single sim that does it all - that is why XP12 will be a day one purchase for me.

[ryanbatc 12,775]

6 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I love flying VFR/IFR with single or twin engine GA in MSFS, yet I still use XP11 regularly when I want to practice IFR for the reasons you state.  I wish I could take the trim implementation from XP11 and put it into MSFS!

MSFS is a stunning sim, but not yet the one and only single sim that does it all - that is why XP12 will be a day one purchase for me.

I'll likely buy it as well - as for scenery/visuals - MSFS still beats it imo.  I tend to do more VFR flying irl so that sort of thing is important to me.  When I'm focused more on IFR training I'd probably take XP12.  MSFS is about on par now though with XP..with units like the G1000 NXi, TDS GTN Xi etc - you're basically getting very realistic glass instruments. I can fly GPS approaches to LPV mins in the Piper Arrow for example using the TDS GTN Xi.   And with this upcoming 414 - you'll have the option for analogue or analogue/glass powerful rnav(gps) navigation (glide path for lpv approaches as well!), FIKI, turbochargers, pressurized cockpit... it's basically a very capable plane and it's quick too.

Edited March 15, 2022 by ryanbatc

[jcomm 5,890]

Another 1st-day-buy 4 me 🙂

[xender 459]

5 hours ago, Flysimware said:

User manual is available here. Beta release should be Monday March 28 if no issues. 

https://flysimware.com/website2019/msfs2020-aircraft-helicopters/

I need this one sooo baaad.. 😀

Hopefully we will see a learjet soon too!

[blueshark747 1,843]

7 hours ago, Flysimware said:

User manual is available here. Beta release should be Monday March 28 if no issues. 

https://flysimware.com/website2019/msfs2020-aircraft-helicopters/

After that the Learjet 35A will go into production for MSFS???

Edited March 15, 2022 by blueshark747

[Flysimware 647]

12 hours ago, psychedelic_tortilla said:

That's amazing news!

Just to confirm, on the product page of the C414 it says estimated release March 21. Is this the correct date, or March 28? 

I update both the website and Avsim. We decided on the 24th.