You're not a real hardcore simmer unless you have to hide your purchases from your wife and lock your FPS at 24 because "the human eye can't perceive more than that." 

I'm a hardcore simmer, i land hard all the time.

I was flying over a shipyard so I was naval gazing also. 🤗

ns

 

🤨

 

 

Edited January 28, 20224 yr by bean_sprout

3 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

I burst in laugh reading this as it reminded me that it took me quite some time to understand and implement the basic rule of landing : watch your speed ! 

 

I remember the first time I didn't get lost in FS2 and actually found my way from Meigs to Champaign. VOR navigation at its finest.

My first landing at Champaign: one moment I was looking good. One frame later (that's approx one second) I had crashed, with no plausible explanation.

Old times ....

A.

Wow. I see the usual two P3D gurus have been in to let everyone know MSFS is bad, and they are hardcore serious badass simmers and everyone else here is not. Good job boys - you are winners.

 

4 hours ago, GSalden said:

I have a real size cockpit here and MSFS does not support many features Prosim needs.

You made the statement, 'MSFS is not for hardcore simmers.'  Are you saying a necessary condition of belonging to the 'hardcore simming' subset of all flight sim users is to have a real size cockpit and support [for] many features Prosim needs?  Along with this, what other conditions should be met before any flight simulator is qualified to be for hardcore simmer use?  This is part and parcel of the ongoing contentiousness and certainly does not need to be, and it is contentious because no one will define this.  

To me, the entire label, 'hardcore simmer' should really be banned from use at Avsim.  What's far more useful is to forget the label and focus on what needs to be done to improve the simulator.  Support for real size cockpit/multimonitor/6-axis full motion platform support, and all the rest, etc etc etc.  The label is where the contentiousness lives.  I use MSFS almost every single day of the year, and do multiple flights every single day while home.  This behavior is FAR from casual, so am I a 'hardcore flight simmer'?  Of course, depending again on how this is defined.  What if you build a real size cockpit on a 6-axis platform, but you rarely ever 'fly' it because all you really get off on is building and setting the entire thing up, are you still a hardcore simmer?  Probably not!  Every one of us can essentially agree, more or less, on what attributes are either missing, or underdeveloped as it were.   Those bigtime dedicated to expanding hardware elements of a real sized cockpit might as well be labeled, 'flight simulator gearheads' which is really a far more meaningful label than 'hardcore simmer' as it describes what is important to them.

 

but how else measure epeen if not by size of cockpit?

Folk who need to label themselves apart from everyone else have attention issues. We are all in this together. Spending a bunch of money on the sim doesn't make you better than a person with just a joystick.

 

Saw your post @AvAngel while I was writing mine. I had the same thought in mind. 

12 hours ago, pstrub said:

Edit: and with respect to the historic weather... Jörg said in one of the Q&As: I see this request gets a lot of support, so please list the reasons for it in the forum, and we'll see what we can do. Keep in mind that historic live weather most likely adds to the running cost because I'm sure Meteoblue will charge extra for this. 

Is there a technical reason why some clever clogs can't just rig up an algorithm to harvest historical weather details and force them into a 'preset' that can be injected like all the other presets?

4 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

Is there a technical reason why some clever clogs can't just rig up an algorithm to harvest historical weather details and force them into a 'preset' that can be injected like all the other presets?

No, I don't think so... but I suppose in this business relation it's more about the licensing terms and conditions, not so much about what's possible from a technical point of view.

2 hours ago, AvAngel said:

I'm a hardcore simmer, i land hard all the time.

Frankly I think all the guys (I'm sure it's 100% men) PROUDLY THRUSTING their credentials as HARDcore into the world really need to take a time out to consider their psychology and language use ('Paging Dr. Freud').

3 hours ago, liamp51 said:

You're not a real hardcore simmer unless you have to hide your purchases from your wife

Meh, or you made a great choice and married a woman who doesn't care how you spend the money you earn as long as your share of the bills and mortgage gets paid.   And you don't go to prison for it.  😄

 

1 hour ago, RichUK said:

Wow. I see the usual two P3D gurus have been in to let everyone know MSFS is bad, and they are hardcore serious badass simmers and everyone else here is not. Good job boys - you are winners.

I think you misspelled that last word, but I'm not sure how.   For posterity's sake, were you going for "whiners" or "wieners"?

 

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Are you saying a necessary condition of belonging to the 'hardcore simming' subset of all flight sim users is to have a real size cockpit and support [for] many features Prosim needs?

I'm still waiting for an answer to this, too.   For now my money's on the explanatory conjecture I put forward an in earlier post.

 

32 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

Frankly I think all the guys (I'm sure it's 100% men) PROUDLY THRUSTING their credentials as HARDcore into the world really need to take a time out to consider their psychology and language use ('Paging Dr. Freud').

Come now.  Sometimes a pretentious blowhard is just a pretentious blowhard.  😂

 

42 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

Is there a technical reason why some clever clogs can't just rig up an algorithm to harvest historical weather details and force them into a 'preset' that can be injected like all the other presets?

Not really, no.   I've done some digging on hobbyist projects in this area.  The biggest obstacle to that is going to be getting access to and licensing the historical data, and depending on the portion of the world you want to cover and how far back you want to go, the difficulty of that can range from "moderate" to "almost impossible and definitely expensive".   It's not too hard to find, eg, archives of US METARs going back 10 years or so, though often getting that info means trawling a range of poorly documented government ftp sites and other non-fun work.   For anything more comprehensive, though, you're probably going to want to end up paying for a data feed produced by someone like CustomWeather.  I've checked briefly into pricing for their data sets, and it's more than I'd want to pay for a personal project.   It's definitely doable if you're sufficiently motivated -- HiFi does something similar for ASN, but I don't remember who they're using as a source or how wide and deep the data are.

Once you get the data, injecting it is a solved problem, to one degree or another, as demonstrated by WeatherForce and Unreal Weather.   Perhaps not an unflawed solution, but totally doable.

It seems folks generally find it more fun to complain and tear others down though.

Edited January 29, 20224 yr by DeepestRed

11 hours ago, DeepestRed said:

I see you're from the Netherlands.  I know Dutch folks generally speak English very well, but still not natively, so perhaps that's why you don't seem to have grasped what I was saying.

To put it more plainly:   "Hardcore simmer" is a very subjective term, as it has no concrete definition.   YOU do not define what "hardcore simmer" means, thus YOU cannot define whether or whether not a sim is for "hardcore simmers".   And, as a corollary, YOU cannot say that because the sim does not meet YOUR needs, it is not for "hardcore simmers".   The most you can say is that it is not for people who have your particular needs.

Unless you are being a massive egotist and saying that only the folks who do what you do are "hardcore simmers", then its unsuitability for you does not make it "not for hardcore simmers".   That should be pretty straight forward, no?

(And if you are being a massive egotist and saying you get to define what a "hardcore simmer" is, at least we all now know.)

Edit:   Of, anders gezegd, ik spreek een beetje Nederlands, maar ik heb een hekel aan maatjes. Moet ik zeggen dat maatjes niet geschikt zijn voor serieuze Nederlanders?

You are writing a lot, making all kinds of assumptions, but you are saying nothing ….

In Dutch : veel gepraat maar weinig wol ….

Edited January 29, 20224 yr by GSalden

7 hours ago, Noel said:

You made the statement, 'MSFS is not for hardcore simmers.'  Are you saying a necessary condition of belonging to the 'hardcore simming' subset of all flight sim users is to have a real size cockpit and support [for] many features Prosim needs?  Along with this, what other conditions should be met before any flight simulator is qualified to be for hardcore simmer use?  This is part and parcel of the ongoing contentiousness and certainly does not need to be, and it is contentious because no one will define this.  

To me, the entire label, 'hardcore simmer' should really be banned from use at Avsim.  What's far more useful is to forget the label and focus on what needs to be done to improve the simulator.  Support for real size cockpit/multimonitor/6-axis full motion platform support, and all the rest, etc etc etc.  The label is where the contentiousness lives.  I use MSFS almost every single day of the year, and do multiple flights every single day while home.  This behavior is FAR from casual, so am I a 'hardcore flight simmer'?  Of course, depending again on how this is defined.  What if you build a real size cockpit on a 6-axis platform, but you rarely ever 'fly' it because all you really get off on is building and setting the entire thing up, are you still a hardcore simmer?  Probably not!  Every one of us can essentially agree, more or less, on what attributes are either missing, or underdeveloped as it were.   Those bigtime dedicated to expanding hardware elements of a real sized cockpit might as well be labeled, 'flight simulator gearheads' which is really a far more meaningful label than 'hardcore simmer' as it describes what is important to them.

 

Common Noel, you too ? Writing a long post about ….. what ?

Some people just keep writing out of boredom…. 🥳

 

Edited January 29, 20224 yr by GSalden