April 15, 20224 yr I would tend to wait till the real Benchmarks are out by testers as the 3090 does not have much at 1080p and is wasted. Raymond Fry.
April 15, 20224 yr What was interesting in the frenchie xplane 11 test was how similar across the board the amd chips were (in their series ie 2x, 3x, 5x) and the intel are similar but their is a gradient within each family based on core count. Xplane sorely needs a new architecture and hopefully that changes with 12 but I dont have high hopes for Austin's next deal. Been happilly rocking the 5800x since launch. I run at 4k though. Will hold off on this in favor of a new gpu when they hit/actually become available. Nick Silver http://www.youtube.com/user/socalf1fan Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64gb ddr4 3200mhz ram, RTX 4080 Super, HP Reverb G2 v2, 4K Tv Monitor
April 15, 20224 yr The 5800X3d is going to be awful for MSFS. Please don't buy it (So I can get a copy for myself) https://fsprocedures.com Your home for all flight simulator related checklist.
April 16, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, fogboundturtle said: The 5800X3d is going to be awful for MSFS. Please don't buy it (So I can get a copy for myself) Just hope the price fits your pocket. AMD being cheaper. Spotted: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6950 XT with a very high price (guru3d.com) Raymond Fry.
April 16, 20224 yr 8 hours ago, fogboundturtle said: The 5800X3d is going to be awful for MSFS. Please don't buy it (So I can get a copy for myself) Availability of the 12900KS has been quite good actually, so I expect the same for the 5800X3D. Just 8 cores, no overclock on a dead-end AM4 platform will turn off a lot of high-end enthusiasts and new builds. Also note the French review has X-Plane 11 benchmarks for the 5800X3D, which to put it politely isn't very good vs. the 12900K.
April 16, 20224 yr On 4/14/2022 at 5:19 PM, bean_sprout said: My 5900X falls asleep when running MSFS. 🙂 ns go to flytampa toronto with full AI, it will run Rig Specs; CPU AMD Ryzen 9950X3d, GPU 5090 32gb, Memory 64GB 2x32 CL28 , WD-SN710 Black 500 GB, WD-SN710 Black 2TB, MSI x870XeTomahawk, Be Quit Straight power 1200 Watt platinum. LG Oled C4
April 16, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Avantime said: Availability of the 12900KS has been quite good actually, so I expect the same for the 5800X3D. Just 8 cores, no overclock on a dead-end AM4 platform will turn off a lot of high-end enthusiasts and new builds. Also note the French review has X-Plane 11 benchmarks for the 5800X3D, which to put it politely isn't very good vs. the 12900K. The 12900K is faster in X-Plane 11, no doubt. But I don't see any issue with the 5800X3D either, 89fps average, 69 fps 1% low looks like more than enough to me. And who knows what direction the relative performance Intel vs AMD will take in X-Plane 12. Anyway, the 5800X3D is an amazing offer for upgrading an existing Ryzen system with low effort. But I probably wouldn't build a new AM4 system at this point. My simming system: AMD Ryzen 5800X3D, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB, LG 38" 3840x1600
April 16, 20224 yr 49 minutes ago, pilotter said: go to flytampa toronto with full AI, it will run Gamebar stats rarely shows higher than 12% CPU utilization and all 12 cores seem to be doing some work. But yes AI can be a killer. ns Edited April 16, 20224 yr by bean_sprout AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
April 16, 20224 yr Author 2 hours ago, Avantime said: Availability of the 12900KS has been quite good actually, so I expect the same for the 5800X3D. They are not very comparable. The 12900KS is simply a 12900K with stricter binning, while the 5800X3D is using 50% more N7 silicon and a very difficult (and expensive) 3D-stacking and packaging process which does not have perfect yields either. Since it is only one SKU, the only logical explanation is that they are using dies not fit for Milan-X. As for demand, not many gamers want the 12900KS. The huge increase in price and power consumption are not really worth the relatively small performance gains. Meanwhile, there are plenty of AM4 users sitting on Zen and Zen 2 CPUs who would see huge gaming performance boosts with the 5800X3D, while not having to change motherboards and deal with expensive and mediocre DDR5. I predict demand will be really high, especially with AMD finally enabling Zen 3 support on the X370 and B350.
April 16, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, ChaoticBeauty said: They are not very comparable. The 12900KS is simply a 12900K with stricter binning, while the 5800X3D is using 50% more N7 silicon and a very difficult (and expensive) 3D-stacking and packaging process which does not have perfect yields either. Since it is only one SKU, the only logical explanation is that they are using dies not fit for Milan-X. As for demand, not many gamers want the 12900KS. The huge increase in price and power consumption are not really worth the relatively small performance gains. Meanwhile, there are plenty of AM4 users sitting on Zen and Zen 2 CPUs who would see huge gaming performance boosts with the 5800X3D, while not having to change motherboards and deal with expensive and mediocre DDR5. I predict demand will be really high, especially with AMD finally enabling Zen 3 support on the X370 and B350. It's for this very reason why I've decided to order on the day of release, I'm not prepared to wait and pick one up later, Amd might not make that many 5800X3D's, so it's best to pick one up straight away. AMD 9800X3D, NZXT X73 RGB AIO COOLER, Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7, 64GB 6000MHZ RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro NVME, 4 TB Crucial P3+ NVME, 4TB Crucial SSD, Gigabyte Gaming OC Geforce RTX5090, Antec C8 ARGB Case, X55 JOYSTICK/THROTTLES, LG 4K C4 42" TV/Monitor 120 Hz, 2 Dell 1080 monitors. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle. Thrustmaster TPR Pedals. Moza AB6 FFB Joystick, Pimax Crystal Light VR, Tobii Eye tracker, Steelseries Arctis 7+ Wireless Headphones.
April 20, 20224 yr Ordered a 5800 x3D today for my birthday present from me to me. I hope to see the 40%+ from my current 5800x, but we will see. But it should go nice with my 6800XT anyway. Ryzen 7 5800 x3D, Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Plus, Geforce GTX 4080 F.E., 32GB Corsair PC-3600, 1TB Samsung Evo 970 nVME SSD, 1TB Samsung Evo 870 SSD, 500GB Samsung Evo 870 SSD
April 20, 20224 yr On 4/16/2022 at 2:39 AM, Avantime said: Availability of the 12900KS has been quite good actually, so I expect the same for the 5800X3D. Just 8 cores, no overclock on a dead-end AM4 platform will turn off a lot of high-end enthusiasts and new builds. Also note the French review has X-Plane 11 benchmarks for the 5800X3D, which to put it politely isn't very good vs. the 12900K. the Ryzen's have never really been amazing overclockers. People are not rushing out to try and get an extra 1ghz out of them. That has been Intel's game for a while now. My 5800x sits all day in MSFS at 4.85ghz with zero manual overclocking. Most of the later Ryzen chips perform at higher than advertised clock speeds anyways. Nick Silver http://www.youtube.com/user/socalf1fan Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64gb ddr4 3200mhz ram, RTX 4080 Super, HP Reverb G2 v2, 4K Tv Monitor
April 20, 20224 yr 12 minutes ago, Mikeingreen said: Ordered a 5800 x3D today for my birthday present from me to me. I hope to see the 40%+ from my current 5800x, but we will see. But it should go nice with my 6800XT anyway. I'm waiting because at the moment im budget constrained.. but im also going to count on you to let me know how it runs at JFK with EVERYTHING turned on because at some point i am going to get this chip if i can get a solid 30fps with the entire airport humming. Would have me set for at least another year and gives me a 1 year buffer before considering selling everything and starting fresh on AM5 or an intel offering. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
April 20, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Mikeingreen said: Ordered a 5800 x3D today for my birthday present from me to me. I hope to see the 40%+ from my current 5800x, but we will see. But it should go nice with my 6800XT anyway. Check out todays Hardware unboxed on youtube, they benchmarked the 5800x3d against the 5800x in msfs at 1080p 1440p and 4k, albiet with a 3090.
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