Not happy about topic closure when the author (me) has not been given a right to reply!

Regarding Microsoft's stand regarding (fake) weapons on war planes is forcing one's ideology on another, sets a dangerous precident. I thought that the so called free world was fighting other countries that was doing this sort of thing.

Simulators by nature is an attempt at being 'as real as it gets'. Planes should represent the way they are or were. MSFS is a general flight simulator. We should be able to embrace all planes especially the magnificent WW2 birds as they really were. It's strange that all these planes are allowed in cockpit, gun sights and clickable gun switches but not graphically show the load out of the weapons in question. Importantly, the loadout affects the flight characteristic of the plane in question.so denying these weapons, the plane falls short of being simulated. I was never asking for the planes to actually do damage, I leave that to DCS.

There is hypocracy in Microsoft's stand when you consider that they condone or even encourage in Windows, game clients e.g. Steam to sell games that are death dealing, bloodthirsty, gorey and sick. Ideology should not be their game, that's choice of a free voting electorate. 

There was nothing in the reply from my ticket about their E rating, not that they needed the E rating. Unlikely a 3 year old is going to be playing this. I can't see a refund likely even though they have breached UK law which would cover incomplete digital download as it would be considered broke.

I suspect that even purchasing from the developers, that Microsoft will find a way to cause your plane to be updated after a future update to the sim. So we are likely all to be vulnerable, wherever we buy.

In regard to the Corsar, nothing stated in the reply is true.  This, from my ticket states the following:

By design, Microsoft Flight Simulator do­es not include worki­ng armament or enable deliberate acts of violence on official content (stock and 3rd party content purchasable on the ma­rketplace). At its core, Microsoft Flight Simulator is a fli­ght simulator. There is currently no plan to introduce combat simulation.

 

What's with all this anger mate?

Relax and enjoy.  Life's too short to be worried about this sort of stuff.  

Jase

For god's sake get over it. Consider it an extra donation to the developer, buy it again from Milviz and move on. 

Hypocrisy rules the word man. You are probably right about all of this but I think you shouldn't worry too much about it and enjoy the sim as it it. I fly dcs myself most of the time because it has campaigns, the flight dynamics are way better and harder and it looks better in my reverb vr headset.

Edited January 15, 20233 yr by jozeff

3 hours ago, alanrco said:

By design, Microsoft Flight Simulator do­es not include worki­ng armament or enable deliberate acts of violence on official content (stock and 3rd party content purchasable on the ma­rketplace). At its core, Microsoft Flight Simulator is a fli­ght simulator. There is currently no plan to introduce combat simulation.

Not being able to use weapons is one thing. Not being able to render guns on the model itself is quite another. Gary Summons (UK2000) mentioned that Microsoft rejected his version of John Wayne airport on the Marketplace because of the visible guns on a static B17 Flying Fortress!!

Edited January 15, 20233 yr by Christopher Low

It is a very simple policy. If I want to see or use weapons, I launch DCS. If a developer wants to include a model with weapons, just sell outside the marketplace. 

The biggest dangers to the free world are supression and complacency. Problems often start small but can end up eventually as wars. Sorry, people, but wearing the uniform of conformaty is no guarantee of a safe and happy future. I can see that complacency is well demonstrated here.

Live Long and Prosper! 🙂🙂🙂

14 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Isn't it just that Microsoft will before too long bring out MS Combat Flight Simulator 2024?

Hah...that wouldn't surprise me. I doubt that it is out of pure ethics that they don't allow it. There is always a business angle. 

13 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Isn't it just that Microsoft will before too long bring out MS Combat Flight Simulator 2024? To allow combat/weapons in the present sim would cancel out a future source of revenue.

As joking as you can be when you write this, it's nothing that I haven't think about, particularly after they contracted Petrovich ( former 1C / 777 IL-2 Great Battles, although he said he was long willing to work on non-military oriented flight simulations... ).

The OP is also very right in the aspects pertaining to flight dynamics and how these are affected by gun and weapon loadouts.

2 hours ago, alanrco said:

The biggest dangers to the free world are supression and complacency. Problems often start small but can end up eventually as wars. Sorry, people, but wearing the uniform of conformaty is no guarantee of a safe and happy future. I can see that complacency is well demonstrated here.

Live Long and Prosper! 🙂🙂🙂

Pretty  much agree with this but you have to choose your battles and there are far more damaging examples of Cancel culture that need addressing imo

 

Get over it and get DCS its the best way to have weapons as its for combat MSFS is not

Edited January 15, 20233 yr by jason74

It's a Flight Simulator not a Gun Simulator.

I'm with Microsoft on this one. 

Edited January 15, 20233 yr by gb09f

Unnecessary drama 🤔. Chill and relax. Life is short 

As others said, get DCS when you want action, and go too MSFS when you want to chill. Simple

Ranting on avsim about this will not make Microsoft change their policy, so what is the point, it is what it is

Edited January 15, 20233 yr by Kaboki

Freedom.......... complacency........ suppression.......... conformity.  In my experience there are very few people around that fully understand the implications of these things.

Sounds like you're up for a verbal fight about this. Fighting for your right to celebrate fighting.

It's just as well we're not all the same....... and that is an inescapable, irrefutable  fact. 

DCS is your solution. 

edited for clarity and typos.

Edited January 15, 20233 yr by GaryK