5 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

Yes, but they are French!!

ha ha ha

I think it’s important to remind ourselves LM aren’t the best at promoting their sim. Look at how the whole world’s terrain was vastly improved over v4 in v5. Yet, it hardly got a mention.

in the early days I was still using Ultimate Terrain X for Europe, NA and the Caribbean. Then out of curiosity I did some comparison shots between UTX enabled and disabled. It was then I discovered UTX was redundant. LM had brought P3D right up to date. We had detailed coastlines worldwide.

And it wasn’t just Europe or NA that got the treatment. The whole world had. Places like South Korea now looked just as good as anywhere else.

These enhanced cities and airports have only been seen in fleeting moments and just a few of course. They could turn out to be significant improvements.

I can’t see the missiles being available in the Personal version. Pro and Pro + only I imagine.

I’m sure they will address the problem of so few parking positions too.

And as for Andrew Wilson’s post saying “At this time, we have not made any commitments to support P3D v6.” that’s just a holding reply. I’d be amazed with Concorde now in beta they didn’t make it v6 compatible. After all, it was originally going to be v4 and v5 compatible but they dropped v4 during v5 development. My guess is it will be compatible with v5 and eventually, v6.

From what a trusted source had revealed third party aircraft are compatible without any configuring required. That only applies to those he owns of course.

5 hours ago, Sethos said:

 

I see you're still upset after I called out your CPU in that other thread, trying your best to call me out. Get over it buddy, move on 😅

And my daddy could beat up your daddy, so there!! 🙂

3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I can’t see the missiles being available in the Personal version. Pro and Pro + only I imagine.

What a pity. I was looking forward to a fully armed PMDG 747.😁

Edited June 25, 20232 yr by IanHarrison

46 minutes ago, Zangoose said:

"Microsoft Flight Simulator is beautiful but we are focused on training" 

 

And that is why P3D has lost the consumer market. Using advanced aircraft is one thing, but I have no interest in a platform that focus only on training.

Training == repeating scenarios to exhaustion until proficiency is absolute. I like variety, fidelity and stunning graphics.

Edited June 25, 20232 yr by GCBraun

No, P3D lost the consumer market ONLY because MSFS "is beautiful".

3 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

And that is why P3D has lost the consumer market. Using advanced aircraft is one thing, but I have no interest in a platform that focus only on training.

Training == repeating scenarios to exhaustion until proficiency is absolute. I like variety, fidelity and stunning graphics.

Oh dear!

You mean when you use P3D, you can't fly where you want, when you want and in what plane you want?  I can.

Not going to risk going on holiday by talking about graphics in another sim.

1 minute ago, IanHarrison said:

Oh dear!

You mean when you use P3D, you can't fly where you want, when you want and in what plane you want?  I can.

Not going to risk going on holiday by talking about graphics in another sim.

Yes, I can. But the LM representative confirmed that their focus is not on that use case.

What breakes this announcement for me is that most airports are already incompatible in V5, especially with Dynamic Light's and incorrect elevation's.

I habe absolutely no hope about any V6 updates from addon developers, so will stay at 4.5. It has absolutely anything I can wish for in any civil flight simulation.

23 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

Yes, I can. But the LM representative confirmed that their focus is not on that use case.

Oh, you asked a LM representative at the flight expo about this and that was their reply? That's interesting, if it's a reply from an actual LM representative at flight expo.

16 minutes ago, marlon445 said:

What breakes this announcement for me is that most airports are already incompatible in V5, especially with Dynamic Light's and incorrect elevation's.

I habe absolutely no hope about any V6 updates from addon developers, so will stay at 4.5. It has absolutely anything I can wish for in any civil flight simulation.

How do you know this? This sim hasn't been released yet. And they are saying things will be backwards compatible so v5 stuff should work with v6.

4 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Oh, you asked a LM representative at the flight expo about this and that was their reply? That's interesting, if it's a reply from an actual LM representative at flight expo.

No, I did not. This is a quote from the LM representative who conducted their presentation at FSExpo (as reported some posts above).

1 minute ago, GCBraun said:

No, I did not. This is a quote from the LM representative who conducted their presentation at FSExpo (as reported some posts above).

Thanks!

40 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

And that is why P3D has lost the consumer market. Using advanced aircraft is one thing, but I have no interest in a platform that focus only on training.

Training == repeating scenarios to exhaustion until proficiency is absolute. I like variety, fidelity and stunning graphics.

Same.  It's bizarre to me that they would state they are committed to the training market, not home users.  Yet they make the statement while in person at a convention geared to the home sim user.  

I was hoping to be "wowed" by their announcement.  I viewed it with an open mind.  But I think V6 is a let down.  Atleast to me it is.  

Interesting post from Andrew at FSL:

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Our customers who have since migrated to MSFS (a significant proportion) could equally put forward a similar argument. Our business decisions are not engineered around customer loyalty - they are built upon market research and ROI. Like it or not, the community base using P3D is reducing rapidly and this latest release from LM will not alter this trajectory.