Fenix block 2 delayed

[roi1862 611]

1 minute ago, Aamir said:

Ultimately, criticism is fine. It is what it is, I can't do much about that - it is simply a byproduct of choosing to do what we're doing. You could have had IAEs around a year ago, but with 0 actual simulation behind it. Just a skinned CFM with "interpreted" display data and a bunch of nonsense running behind the displays. But hey, it would have worked, I guess.

It was our choice and our decision to build both the IAEs and CFMs to be better. Much better. We set our targets on stuff that is new and innovative. That is what our company is about - but pushing the boundaries come at cost. Both financial, and opportunity. Trust me, I stand here today sometimes wishing we did, in fact, just skin the IAEs and call it a day, followed by quickly throwing out the A321 and A319 and simply just moving on. It would have been cheaper by a factor of 10, and I'd reckon most wouldn't have noticed. But I would have. And it's not our ethos. As a consumer I believe in putting my dollars behind a company whose products I admire, but also whose ethos aligns with what I'm looking to get out of my dollars. So, that may open the door to criticism, because of how long it took to do. I think that's fair, and it does mean some customers completely disagree with it, and no longer want to spend their money with us - but we're always going to end up pushing for quality and depth over timelines, because there's no joy in what we do otherwise. 

I agree to most part. Personally i dont have any criticism, its just a game at the end of the day, and real life has far more difficult challenges, to say the least...  

I would say keep the current high depth level as you have more products in the pipeline. If you throw out half baked products or 'less then expected level' of products, it might hurt future products sales... 

Criticism is ok, and sometimes helps to create better product and development. 

 

[lwt1971 7,647]

MSFS is immensely fortunate to have a dev house like Fenix focused on this level of quality and depth of simulated aircraft for the sim, with a refreshing attitude and approachability that they exhibit towards the community.. Take all the time you want for block 2 Fenix, and then the 319/321.. here's me hoping against hope you'll do a 330 or 350 after all that 🙂 
 

[Claudius_ 336]

45 minutes ago, roi1862 said:

I agree to most part. Personally i dont have any criticism, its just a game at the end of the day, and real life has far more difficult challenges, to say the least...  

 

 

If someone is selling a "product" and you buy it, it isn't just a game, but something more serious is involved here. There is a difference between a player, a gamer and a consumer. Personally I don't like when the devs act some marketing strategies, but I don't know if this can be applied here, because the Fenix Discord channel appears to be rather friendly and trasparent (I like Dave and his sense of humour) [although I have some different opinions regarding the turbulences].

Edited October 19, 2023 by Claudius_

[cavaricooper 2,615]

@Aamir I do hope you read my query as simply anticipatory curiosity and excitement. There was no moaning intended, and I hope it didn’t come out that way.

Best- C

[techman 174]

17 hours ago, Aamir said:

Amazing all that detail comes out in a post and all everyone cares about is one snippet with: "No, I'm just happy with what we're producing tbh.", and straight to the races with the timeline discussion again.

You are absolutely right, we are certainly never giving timelines out again - but it was worth a shot, everyone was asking for them stating that they're OK with it moving and understand it's the way it goes, but at least it's better than not knowing any of our aims/goals/targets, and so we delivered a timeline. It moved and now it's all people care about as opposed to the mad stuff we're doing, and now it's a case of: "why give timelines". It is rather exhausting. 

Can't win, hence I state - I no longer care about timelines, only that I am happy with what we're building. Maybe it does come out end of October. It's certainly quite possible. Or perhaps I see something I don't like, and want to fix it. And it moves again. I don't know, I'm not an oracle. Our timeline is October. It remains October. It is our shooting point. But I'm not going to rush a labour of love (because we sure as heck aren't getting paid for this update, no $$$ being exchanged here for this work) just to make an arbitrary timeline I set for us. That's just me doing damage to myself, then. 

You are doing it the absolutely right way. It´s done when it´s done, and nobody cares if it comes out a couple of weeks later as long as the quality is the same as the Vanilla-Product.

[Orlaam 328]

I'm always disappointed when a deadline is announced and missed with these add-ons.  However, the Fenix is a wonderful iteration of the Airbus and we have received improvements along the way.  I really don't think people have as much to complain about.  People who complain are still gonna update and purchase the A319/321 anyhow 😆

[Vitold69 47]

Why not to declare the Block 2 as a Christmas gift?

[BrammyH 493]

They have thrown in the towel for the October guidance. They deleted the IAEs from the !schedule bot,

"We then expect to release the A319+A321 expansion package by the end of the year. Sharklets will be coming for the A319, A320, A321 in 2024."

[mobiel 75]

You have to quote it correctly. Before your quote the bot refers to a quote by Aamir about the current situation. 

"I mean, it more or less is - if I told you anything else I'd be lying. Ultimately, there are issues to resolve - it may be resolved in 2 days, it may be resolved in 15 days. I don't really know. It's like asking someone to solve a heinously difficult math problem, but before you do - tell me down to the second how long it's going to take to solve it" (Aamir//Discord Server by Fenix)

Edited October 27, 2023 by mobiel

[BrammyH 493]

Thanks. I had missed that.

I am surprised they are keeping the guidance for the A319/A320 for the end of the year. It feels like they are setting themselves up for more angst in 2 months.

I'd rather wait than have them release a broken product.

Edited October 27, 2023 by BrammyH

[MDFlier 2,031]

I wouldn't go beyond what he said in his statement. They've got a singular issue to resolve and they need some time to sort it out. There's no indication that it would cause a cascade failure for the whole schedule.

I've been stumped writing code before. I usually found the answer immediately after I had told everyone that I had no idea when I would sort it out. Fingers crossed that happens to Aamir and Dave. 🤞

[Fiorentoni 4,489]

 

29 minutes ago, mobiel said:

You have to quote it correctly. Before your quote the bot refers to a quote by Aamir about the current situation. 

"I mean, it more or less is - if I told you anything else I'd be lying. Ultimately, there are issues to resolve - it may be resolved in 2 days, it may be resolved in 15 days. I don't really know. It's like asking someone to solve a heinously difficult math problem, but before you do - tell me down to the second how long it's going to take to solve it" (Aamir//Discord Server by Fenix)

I totally love the nice and transparent way Aamir communicates. No company blah blah, it's all rational and honest.

[Wise87 1,291]

Looks like it’s not going to make October. They pulled the message about October from the !schedule Bot on discord mentioning IAE. I saw it coming as they were not happy with it yet. No biggie. 

Edited October 30, 2023 by Wise87

[737_800 438]

1 hour ago, Wise87 said:

Looks like it’s not going to make October. They pulled the message about October from the !schedule Bot on discord mentioning IAE. I saw it coming as they were not happy with it yet. No biggie. 

It is what it is. It will be there when ready. I personally don't care about that, as long as they deliver a good product in the end. What makes me happy instead of deadlines, are updates of new features or screenshot over the process.

[Vitold69 47]

We have time to test new PMDG tablet and Horizon 789 meanwhile.