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Navigraph Survey is out for 2023

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The dropdown list of favorite acft add-ons for MSFS is very poorly organized...had to search extensively to find even very popular add-ons like the PMDG acft.  I suspect the answers to that question are going to be skewed towards invalidity due to people not being able to find things in the list and giving up/moving on.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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14 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

he dropdown list of favorite acft add-ons for MSFS is very poorly organized...had to search extensively to find even very popular add-ons like the PMDG acft. 

For X-plane you had to type in the add ons , they didn't give us a dropdown list. This was almost like taken a exam. lol

My advice to others', plan to spend sometime and do a little research on what you have bought in the the last year, if you don't remember while doing the survey.

1. In social media section there is no option 'none'.

They do not assume even that someone these days do not use one of those 😵

2. Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

3. Too many personal data requested. 

Artur 

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42 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

3. Too many personal data requested. 

In that case I won’t be bothering if they’re only interested in one simulator when there are three major ones.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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44 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

1. In social media section there is no option 'none'.

They do not assume even that someone these days do not use one of those 😵

Yeah, that's push a lot of them do these days.

 

44 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

2. Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

It appears slanted that way to make to whole process simpler and seems dumbed down while they leave it up to you to fill in the blanks where there is no drop down list of any products or things you would consider. They did supplied a list from the MSFS addon but from what I understand  from Bob Scott post, it wasn't done very well either. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

In that case I won’t be bothering if they’re only interested in one simulator when there are three major ones.

You'd be better served filling it in, if nothing else than for registering as your main sim. If people on the "lesser used" (going by last years results) platforms don't fill it in then it will skew the data even more towards MSFS.

For what it's worth I didn't see it as massively skewed towards MSFS.

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Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

In that case I won’t be bothering if they’re only interested in one simulator when there are three major ones.

I let them know at lease that our sim and its market is still alive and well. I find this year survey appearing the lease objective than past survey. I would have rather seen them use last years question for this year so that you can get a better feel for any changes. There is just too many chances that some folks will just skip listing their favorite addons or their purchases if they don't remember them all.  

This was released at an interesting time for me. If it had been released a week ago, I would have selected P3Dv4 as my main flight simulator. In addition, the fact that I have only just installed Microsoft Flight Simulator made a few questions about addons somewhat tricky to answer.

Christopher Low

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People are really complaining that the survey is biased? Wow. I wonder if that isn't preemptive damage control lol.

Anyway, I also think the way they designed the aircraft selection is bad. To get around it, I just started typing the name of the aircraft and it popped up from the list.

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25 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

You'd be better served filling it in, if nothing else than for registering as your main sim. If people on the "lesser used" (going by last years results) platforms don't fill it in then it will skew the data even more towards MSFS.

For what it's worth I didn't see it as massively skewed towards MSFS.

I should have time on Sunday. I won’t be answering any personal questions other than sex and age.

25 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

I let them know at lease that our sim and its market is still alive and well.

I’ve never been happier with v5.4 after getting a new PC. I’ll have a look at the questions on Sunday.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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2 minutes ago, Krakin said:

People are really complaining that the survey is biased? Wow. I wonder if that isn't preemptive damage control lol.

Exactly!

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1 hour ago, Beardyman said:

Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing

Nonsense

Cheers, Bert

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2 hours ago, Beardyman said:

1. In social media section there is no option 'none'.

They do not assume even that someone these days do not use one of those 😵

2. Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

3. Too many personal data requested. 

I think that is what the "skip" button is for. At least that's what I used it for a few times.

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