31 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Hey guys. I feel like the turning radius of the C172 is pretty bad and nothing happens with differential braking. Am I doing something wrong?

yeah, I've found turning to be harder as well.

Since Joining SU15, I started getting CTDs unfortunately. In SU14, there were none. Hopefully they will be fixed quickly. Not really wanting to go back because the performance improvements are a big factor in SU15

I've read nearly every post in this thread because the comment about performance improvements caught my eye. I've being playing with flight sim for about 3 decades and over the years I have seen measurable small incremental improvements in performance form one update to next. Definitely something to be happy about. When I see words like amazing and awesome being used it makes me suspicious that it placebo. Especially when I see graphs from post update test and the poster swears blind that its better than it was before the update. Anyway, I decided to stay away from beta's and sure enough this one broke the PMDG 737 but I hardly do any simming these days so I'll just leave it installed. I specifically set up a test with the 737 on 31L at JFK at 10am scattered clouds, AI traffic, unmodified exterior tail view, took off and lifted the gear running CapFrameX for 60 seconds from full throttle. I did this with SU14 and then I repeated it as exactly as possible with SU15 with exactly the same settings both times.

The only difference is the gear didn't retract in the SU15 test because it seems the update broke the 737

Stuttering 0.3% for both (two big frame time spikes on the graph and two medium in a 60 second period) and all other results were virtually exactly the same on my well maintained and tuned system and I could see no difference with the naked eye.

There you have!

Edited February 16, 20242 yr by FBW737

I’m actually curious what is going wrong for you. I’ve been doing the sim thing for a long time and also have finally tuned hardware. This update basically restored the lost performance I had a couple sim updates ago 

on mobile now. So can’t see your hardware signature if you have one 

1 hour ago, Krakin said:

nothing happens with differential braking. Am I doing something wrong?

differential braking is the only way for me to make very sharp turns during slow taxi in a single. I use Saitek rudder pedals. your control assignments might have changed, perhaps using the DUNE settings?

Edited February 16, 20242 yr by turbomax

First flight in progress from YBBN to YSSY. Inibuilds a300

So far:

1. Better performance
2. Clouds and weather seem better
3. Getting lighting and thunderstorms in clouds out of YBBN
4. Not sure if handling is better since it hasnt been activated on the a300 im assuming, but does handle a little better on ground. Might be placebo. 

 

39 minutes ago, FBW737 said:

The only difference is the gear didn't retract in the SU15 test because it seems the update broke the 737

I have done a few flights in the PMDG 737 on the SU15 Beta. The flights were fine but I did notice if I walked away for 10-15 minutes, when I came back to the PC and moved my mouse the gear actually extended. It happened 3 or 4 times.  Also, when loading up a new flight the panel is messed up about half the time and I have to back out to main menu and/or restart the flight.

Edited February 16, 20242 yr by Flic1

56 minutes ago, FBW737 said:

I've read nearly every post in this thread because the comment about performance improvements caught my eye. I've being playing with flight sim for about 3 decades and over the years I have seen measurable small incremental improvements in performance form one update to next. Definitely something to be happy about. When I see words like amazing and awesome being used it makes me suspicious that it placebo. Especially when I see graphs from post update test and the poster swears blind that its better than it was before the update. Anyway, I decided to stay away from beta's and sure enough this one broke the PMDG 737 but I hardly do any simming these days so I'll just leave it installed. I specifically set up a test with the 737 on 31L at JFK at 10am scattered clouds, AI traffic, unmodified exterior tail view, took off and lifted the gear running CapFrameX for 60 seconds from full throttle. I did this with SU14 and then I repeated it as exactly as possible with SU15 with exactly the same settings both times.

The only difference is the gear didn't retract in the SU15 test because it seems the update broke the 737

Stuttering 0.3% for both (two big frame time spikes on the graph and two medium in a 60 second period) and all other results were virtually exactly the same on my well maintained and tuned system and I could see no difference with the naked eye.

There you have!

I only have PMDG 737-700 and -800 in my MSFS beta SU15, I've made 5 flights yesterday, no issues whatsoever. The only thing I noted is that it takes a bit more N1% to roll from a still position. 

I am not seeing performance improvements either. More stutters. 

I had performance improvements yesterday, after installing the beta.

Today...not so much.

30 minutes ago, dusty_sourdough907 said:

I had performance improvements yesterday, after installing the beta.

Today...not so much.

Classic Placebo effect. Don't feel bad. Nobody is immune!🤪

3 hours ago, micstatic said:

I’m actually curious what is going wrong for you. I’ve been doing the sim thing for a long time and also have finally tuned hardware. This update basically restored the lost performance I had a couple sim updates ago 

on mobile now. So can’t see your hardware signature if you have one 

Nothing is going wrong for me. My performance is excellent. It was with SU14 and it is with SU15Beta. Performance is as it where identical with both SU's

9 hours ago, Fielder said:

Thanks, I'm going to go now and turn hyperthreading off. I have a 3DX cpu which doesn't run cool.

I found turning SMT off harmed performance (introduced stutters in the sim).

Instead, try undervolting your CPU using a negative value in the PBO curve optimiser–I use -25 as an all core value (rather than taking the time and effort to test and run what's possible on individual cores).

PPT lowered to 95W and EDC to 90A (TDC left at 70A).

Result is a cooler CPU that boosts to and holds its maximum frequency much longer.

56 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

try undervolting your CPU using a negative value in the PBO curve optimiser

exactly what this thread is all about 🤣

7 hours ago, turbomax said:

differential braking is the only way for me to make very sharp turns during slow taxi in a single. I use Saitek rudder pedals. your control assignments might have changed, perhaps using the DUNE settings?

I just want the kind of ground handling that I enjoyed in P3Dv4. I don't need it to be real world realistic. I just need it to work.