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A miracle ? LSFG (Lossless Scaling Frame Generation)

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10 hours ago, psolk said:

Ok @David Roch I really thought this was going to be the latest "double your FPS" scam out there but I am literally in disbelief.  Thank you for bringing this to my attention. 
I decided to give it a go and even with a 4090 i was never able to experience a stutter free MSFS especially post SU15.  I only use the PMDG out of add-on airports so it's not surprising. 

I downloaded Steam, bought the app, configured it like you showed although I kept 100% monitor refresh rate in lossless and I am just in disbelief.  In the PMDG 737 at DD KEWR I had the smoothest FS experience I've ever had in flight simming.  I mean I'm really not even sure what to say. 

I actually disabled G-Sync in Nvidia Control Panel, set my monitor to it's native 120hz and fixed refresh, max available refresh rate. and it was smoother than ever using G-Sync.  It was so good I moved my TLOD from 200-300 and my OLOD from 100-200 and didn't even notice an impact.  This is at Newark with AIG models and Real Time traffic.  I mean wow. I didn't even look at the FPS because if it is that smooth I don't care.  The fluidity was unreal.  

This was not the outcome I was expecting but I am really blown away so thank you!

My pleasure, Paul !

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

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    I just upgraded my 3080ti to a 40 series for $6.99 lol.  

  • Ok @David Roch I really thought this was going to be the latest "double your FPS" scam out there but I am literally in disbelief.  Thank you for bringing this to my attention.  I decided to give it

  • A little offtopic here but this software works wonders in xplane 12 too. From 40fps to 100fps with all settings maxed out at 4k. It's pure magic. I am speechless honestly.

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2 hours ago, Nemo said:

1. Does it work with NV 30xx series?

2. If yes, does it support/work with the dlssg_to_fsr mod (FG for 30xx cards)?

Hi, Harry,

It works with all GPUs.
And yes, it supports the FG mod but you won't need it anymore.

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

14 hours ago, mikethe6th said:

Does this work with TAA?

Yes

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8 hours ago, Fielder said:

Can someone confirm that this costs $3.50 USD?

£5.82 when purchased in the UK

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5 hours ago, GregP said:

I'm not running true multi-monitor - as my 4090 can't even remotely handle MSFS at 3x4k - but instead I run a 2x4k (7680x2160) window along with NvidiaSurround, so it's centered across my 3 monitors.  My results, using IslandSimPilot's settings, are as follows (test case Longitude on runway at KDCA, Clear Skies, no AI traffic, TAA, RS 100, FG on, DX12, TLOD 200, most settings Ultra, OLOD 195):

Default with FG on: 67 FPS

Default with FG off: 41 FPS

Lossless Scaling with FG on: 44 FPS

Lossless Scaling with FG off: 32 FPS

It also does have the downside of blanking out the other screen space on my side monitors; I tend to use these for charts etc., so that would be an unfortunate loss, although I do also have a single upper monitor that I use for that purpose, so it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.

But as of now, I'm only seeing a performance loss with this tool, unfortunately.

It  might look that way, but in the LSFG settings if you enable Draw FPS, it will then display your actual FPS and then Generated FPS in the top left so something like 45/130

 

 

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Cost me 3.50, I don't think I had credit on Steam but anyway - the only issue I have is when I activate it I get this brightness affect across my screen, like I'm using a filter. Anyone come across this and know what the issue is. FPS is around 80, wonderful.

edit: found it - the HDR setting was ON.

Edited by El Diablito

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Here is an example.

PYREEGUE's (excellent) EGAA Airport, with the Fenix Bus at gate 24, with all the bells and whistles + Active Sky + MSFS2020 Map Enhancement + the following programs running:
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FPS without the mod:
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And with the mod:
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Yes, I can call that "magic"! 🥳

Edited by David Roch

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

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Splat? I use it since FSX! 😊
Very smart light tool for launching all progs together with FS.
I know FS Addon linker does the same but I love this Splat thing!

See here:

 

Edited by David Roch

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

People that used the FG mod before and stopped because of artifacts, is this significantly better for that?

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i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea

20 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Splat? I use it since FSX! 😊
Very smart light tool for launching all progs together with FS.
I know FS Addon linker does the same but I love this Splat thing!

See here:

 

Ah right, yeah I use AddonLinker but Splat looks interesting, will look into it, thanks

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Has anyone tried any of the other scalers? I've been using LS1 but was playing around with some of the others and didn't notice too much difference between any of them....

 

 

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11 hours ago, psolk said:

Ok @David Roch I really thought this was going to be the latest "double your FPS" scam out there but I am literally in disbelief.  Thank you for bringing this to my attention. 
I decided to give it a go and even with a 4090 i was never able to experience a stutter free MSFS especially post SU15.  I only use the PMDG out of add-on airports so it's not surprising. 

I downloaded Steam, bought the app, configured it like you showed although I kept 100% monitor refresh rate in lossless and I am just in disbelief.  In the PMDG 737 at DD KEWR I had the smoothest FS experience I've ever had in flight simming.  I mean I'm really not even sure what to say. 

I actually disabled G-Sync in Nvidia Control Panel, set my monitor to it's native 120hz and fixed refresh, max available refresh rate. and it was smoother than ever using G-Sync.  It was so good I moved my TLOD from 200-300 and my OLOD from 100-200 and didn't even notice an impact.  This is at Newark with AIG models and Real Time traffic.  I mean wow. I didn't even look at the FPS because if it is that smooth I don't care.  The fluidity was unreal.  

This was not the outcome I was expecting but I am really blown away so thank you!

Do you have FG on in MSFS settings and DX12? Thanks

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Yes and yes 😉

 

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

39 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

People that used the FG mod before and stopped because of artifacts, is this significantly better for that?

Yes, no artifacts around menus or when moving the camera in the cockpit. I noticed some very small around the fuselage when panning from outside but it was negligible. Overall it is far better than the FG tool, more stable and less fuss.

B450 Tomahawk Max / Ryzen 7 5800x3D / RTX 3060ti 8G / Noctua NH-UI21S Max Cooling / 32G Patriot RAM / 1TB NVME / 450G SSD / Thrustmaster TCA & Throttle Quadrant / Xiaomi 32" Wide Curved Monitor 1440p 144hz

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