June 26, 20241 yr I can't imagine what developers for other sims are thinking now, after reading this,.
June 26, 20241 yr As much as I can't stand RSR and PMDG as a company, I really like their products. Don't really care for the price, how much they made on it or all this other nonsense. I work for a living to be able to afford nice things and so are they... Jacek G. Ryzen 5800X3D | Asus RTX4090 OC | 64gb DDR4 3600 | Asus ROG Strix X570E | HX1000w | Fractal Design Torrent RGB | AOC AGON 49' Curved QHD |
June 26, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, sdirand said: PMDG knows their business. Even at this price, they will sell hundreds of thousands of 777. So it means the product was well priced. If it was too expensive, people would not buy it. Of course, it was nice to have the Fenix A320 for less than £50. But it was not well priced as I'm sure, it would have sell the same way if it was priced £65. I won't complain to have had the Fenix at that price of course and I would have loved to have the 777 for less than $60. But like many others simmers, I will buy it anyway. People used to pay more than 100 USD for an aircraft on P3D days. Most like the first 6000 copies got sold to the "hardcore fans" that would pay anything. Considering the market growth of the MSFS 6000 is not much, it would be at FSX/P3D times. I think Fenix is worth more than 50 USD, but with that price range, you also offer people living in "low-income" countries, who have an disadvanges to the US-Dollar, a change to buy the product. Also it tends to decrease privicy and bind people to the hobby because it's more affordable.
June 26, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said: I can't imagine what developers for other sims are thinking now, after reading this,. What would they be thinking? You could be more precise in your statement. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
June 26, 20241 yr And let all be honest, if you fly a lot, I mean at least a few flights a week, the price per flight becomes peanuts for a product we will probably use for the next 5 years. I can't count my Fenix and PMDG 737 flights till now. But I have already a lot under my belt. The price of an aircraft is well better priced than a scenery for exemple. Because you can fly your PMDG 777 almost everywhere while you will only use your $20 scenery when you fly from/to that airport.
June 26, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Wise87 said: What would they be thinking? You could be more precise in your statement. You can't figure out what I meant, me explaining it probably won't help Edited June 26, 20241 yr by Bobsk8
June 26, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Wise87 said: What would they be thinking? You could be more precise in your statement. Like Flight Factor would love to achieve such sales. But we know, it will not happend.
June 26, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: You can't figure out what I meant, me explaining it probably won't help I figured out that you, who stated so many times on the Avsim forums, how you hate long hauls and prefer the 737. But you still purchased the 777-300ER for $77.73. PMDG thanks you. 😂 Edited June 26, 20241 yr by Wise87 Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
June 26, 20241 yr Commercial Member 54 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I can't imagine what developers for other sims are thinking now, after reading this,. Congrats? Well done? Sell more? You need to get this intense competition idea out of your head. It’s not about being competitive among developers of one sim or competing sims. We worry about our own work. Not others. And if they succeed, or sell well, fantastic! I’ve congratulated and wished many developers continued success. Edited June 26, 20241 yr by GoranM
June 26, 20241 yr Author 59 minutes ago, El Diablito said: I can't remember how much the Cpt Sim 777 was but those charlatans must've made a killing on that too. They probably did, because Captain Sim kept releasing more products in MSFS 🤣 Edited June 26, 20241 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 26, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, GoranM said: Congrats? Well done? Sell more? You need to get this intense competition idea out of your head. It’s not about being competitive among developers of one sim or competing sims. We worry about our own work. Not others. And if they succeed, or sell well, fantastic! I’ve congratulated and wished many developers continued success. It goes both ways, actually. And that's not true, developers can be really salty. They are creating this enviroment themselves. That said, I hope it changes in the future. Edited June 26, 20241 yr by ca_metal 9800X3D@H150i // Msi RTX 5090 Trio OC // 64GB DDR5 6000mhz CL30 // 2TB + 1TB Nvme Dell 27" 2127DGF - 1440p - Gsync - 165hz Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus // TCA Quadrant Airbus // TFRP T.Flight Rudder Pedals // Logitech Flight Multi Panel
June 26, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, El Diablito said: I can't remember how much the Cpt Sim 777 was but those charlatans must've made a killing on that too. They probably did. A330 Driver made a video about them titled "The GENIUS of CAPTAIN SIM". Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
June 26, 20241 yr 58 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: You can't figure out what I meant, me explaining it probably won't help I'm pretty sure you didn't have competition between devs in mind, right? It's more about devs thinking, "Wow! I could be making all that money over there???" That's not about competition, it's about opportunity.Assuming you're talking about third party developers, of course. @Bobsk8 Let me know if I'm off base concerning what you were thinking. Edited June 26, 20241 yr by Krakin 5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX 9070XT.
June 26, 20241 yr Commercial Member 11 minutes ago, ca_metal said: And that's not true, developers can be really salty I’m glad I haven’t associated with them, then. On several occasions, I’ve teamed developers up to work on a project, and told them to go and make millions. Edited June 26, 20241 yr by GoranM
June 26, 20241 yr I can't imagine what my local gourmet restaurant is thinking now, after reading that McDonalds has introduced a new burger and sold millions within 1 hour. C'mon people, we have had this kind of discussions since "ever". BTW, have you (gate.keepers specifically 🤣) realized, this thread is about the PMDG 777 - if I read it correct ... I might be wrong, though (please tell me, whether I misunderstood the title). Watch my YT-channel: https://www.youtube.com/@flyingcarpet1340/ Customer of X-Plane, Aerofly, Flightgear, MSFS.
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