15 hours ago, DEHowie said:

There seems an overall feel that all aircraft are the same and somehow by owning a 777 you are getting an identical experience to having an MD-11 or any other widebody.

Maybe they think that both will work for the same missions?

Anyway, I'll buy it, if it's like their 717. Unlike the 77W, the MD-11 has already liveries for all the airlines I want.

I did have the 717 years ago by TFDI and from memory it did fly well but there was a couple of issues with it that never were resolved as far as I am  aware.. (can't remember specifics) but to be fair to TDFI, they were attentive and responsive . And as for the dc10.. I would love to have this (had PMDG's offering a few years ago and loved the AUTOPILOT and FMC).. Was actually considering this purchase but by the time you convert 69.90 or 80.00 into my local currency  it is close it 115.00, or 131.00...so like similar priced offerings, it is a no go for me at this stage as the flying frequency vs finances equation comes into play.

 

I've now installed the Diva into fsx and got the fcom and irl checklists ready. The pmdg manual is pretty good too for learning the plane. 

I might buy the TFdi and do a comparison video of cockpit systems. Especially start up and route management. I'm very interested to see how both compare. In fsx most of my md11 flights were cargo at night so the sim gfx differences will be less noticeable. 

I think they deserve my money just for making the plane in the first place. Any dev going the non-trendy route these days is worthy of support. From their discord and dev diary they are obviously trying VERY hard to get this right systems wise. 

I really hope I can get my fave pmdg livery for it. The FedEx PANDA 🐼! 

26 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

I think they deserve my money just for making the plane in the first place. Any dev going the non-trendy route these days is worthy of support. From their discord and dev diary they are obviously trying VERY hard to get this right systems wise.....

Yes, I agree. PMDG were never going to return to the MD11, so hats off to TFDi Design for taking on the challenge.

Anyone know which liveries will be released 7/2/24, with the Freight & Passenger versions?

T45

I don't know, but there are already several liveries available at Flightsim.to

1 hour ago, Luis Hernandez said:

I don't know, but there are already several liveries available at Flightsim.to

I see those. Thanks

Perhaps someone who is an early adopter could tell us what liveries came with their purchase?

T45

2 hours ago, Treetops45 said:

I see those. Thanks

Perhaps someone who is an early adopter could tell us what liveries came with their purchase?

T45

 TFDI pax/cargo PW/GE-liveries, 4 liveries

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On 6/27/2024 at 6:27 AM, Cognita said:

I think 85 dollars is a little high for an aircraft in MSFS. I hope they are successful with the release but I decided to pass on this one and wait for the 77F.

I'll wait for the holiday sale. That should bring it down to a relatively reasonable price. And give me a chance to read all the reviews, and let them get thru the early access madness that will surely ensure.

On 6/28/2024 at 8:23 PM, DEHowie said:

One thing i find completely bizarre about the MSFS community is the complete lack of understanding about real aircraft.

There seems an overall feel that all aircraft are the same and somehow by owning a 777 you are getting an identical experience to having an MD-11 or any other widebody.

Just to clarify the MD-11 used some of the best aspects of the Airbus MCDU AND the Boeing one leading to what is even to this day one of the most advanced FMC's ever seen.

Having been fortunate to fly the 717 which uses the same system  its still more advanced in most ways than any Airbus system and also has features not seen in the most advanced Boeing product the 787.

The concept of flight simulation is to be able to get a look at how and why aircraft are different and what makes them different and challenging to operate.

A heavy MD-11 is a truly challenging aircraft to fly with very high approach speeds particularly in emergency situations far higher than any 777/787 or 747.

At higher weights it takes a lot of thought again far more so than the generally very forgiving 777/787 family. The 777W and 787-9 can be a little trick it max weights but nothing approaching the challenge of a max weight mad dog.

Anyone thinking that by buying the MD-11 you are somehow duplicating and will get an identical experience to that of a 777 is very mistaken indeed.

Very high igh approach speeds, challenging handling characteristics, very high initial climb speeds at max weights making SID's and on arrival STARS very tricky to negotiate mean its a far more challenging aircraft to operate.

The MD-11 became an aerodynamic compromise that gave it very challenging handling traits that hopefully TFDI have built in to the addon so fingers crossed its every bit the beast the real aircraft is.

So expand your horizons dont think any addon will be the same as every other addon because just like the real world every aircraft is different some easier to fly ie 777 some far more difficult MD-11.

And its a great looking aircraft..lol..sad to see them go in a few years time as they are so great to photograph and looking at it TFDI has done it justice.

Hear, hear and A-M-E-N, brother!

It'll never happen, but one of my fondest wishes is for them to release a Hi Fi GlobeMaster III.

On 6/27/2024 at 6:23 AM, Sethos said:

Yeah, that's a bit too rich for a developer I feel hasn't earned the respect yet in the MSFS community, isn't a truly known quantity in this space, to price themselves well above all the competitor average prices.

They have cred from P3D days, which goes pretty far in my book.

Their stuff never seemed to be held in the same level of esteem as PMDG, but their 717 seemed to be a good (and interesting) addon nonetheless.

3 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

They have cred from P3D days, which goes pretty far in my book.

Their stuff never seemed to be held in the same level of esteem as PMDG, but their 717 seemed to be a good (and interesting) addon nonetheless.

They were never near the level of PMDG in P3D/FSX but others were like FS Labs, Majestic, Leonardo and A2A. They were on the same level as Quality Wings and over Aerosoft which was very acceptable.

5 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

I'll wait for the holiday sale. That should bring it down to a relatively reasonable price. And give me a chance to read all the reviews, and let them get thru the early access madness that will surely ensure.

Yea, it is kind of what I am thinking.  I am interested in this aircraft but it is one I can wait on for a while and see how it pans out.

Looks like updated liveries have been posted. 

 

So tomorrow are the public release, exciting and thrilling for me as a pure MD-11 fan..🙃

EDIT: Downloaded my first three liverys at TDFi  ( https://tfdidesign.com/index.php/download/category/18/MSFS-Liveries.html )

cheers 😉

Edited July 1, 20241 yr by pmplayer