July 11, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, c912039 said: The data ref Navigraph is out of date on that page. Navigraph USED to use LIDO charts, however switched away from LIDO, and moved to JEPP charts for their subscription service. The text in the article above refers to Navigraph using LIDO, which is no longer correct. True. The question, though, was about LIDO vs Jeppesen not about Navigraph vs some other service. Ignoring the dated text of the article, the sample images of a Jeppesen and a LIDO chart for the same ILS approach were quite sufficient to allow one to see the difference between the two. At least it was for me. So I thought it was worth sharing in response to the question that had been asked.
July 11, 20241 yr 20 hours ago, espent said: Maybe they will sell charts for a dollar a piece? maybe they will sell weather, pebbles, clouds, adventures for a few dollars more a piece? like they are known to have charged for other built-in features in the past? Edited July 11, 20241 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
July 11, 20241 yr Foe alepro21 Expect you probably know this, but Navigraph produces a log file, accessible by doing this: Press Win + R. Type %appdata%/Navigraph Charts/logs and press enter. In the Explorer window that opens, locate the main. log file. Had a look at mine - mostly gibberish to me, have you looked at yours? Edited July 11, 20241 yr by Overload context
July 12, 20241 yr I miss having an easy access to charts but never went with Navigraph that I find too expensive for my particular use of the sim. The new product is certainly more attractive in this regard. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
July 12, 20241 yr On 7/10/2024 at 5:46 AM, Twenty6 said: People said that same thing about WordPerfect and Lotus 123, among others. Wonder what the established automakers thought when they first heard about the upstart Tesla electric vehicles? Don't forget #3 in the triad: dBase. Wordperfect, Lotus 123 and dBase. Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
July 13, 20241 yr I signed up for the free trial. Charts look fine, but the ‘planner’ is not working at all. Tried a couple different departure / dest combos KORD-KJFK & EBBR-EIDW….& neither worked. Sent a note to support, no response as of yet > 24hrs. Not a good experience so far. rgds, JB 9800x3d, ASUS TUF x870, 64GB G.Skill DDR5, MSI Ventus 4080, HP Reverb G2 VR, FlyVirtual.net, Private Pilot SEL rating, subLogic FlightSim 1983 & every release since
July 14, 20241 yr Only aspects that could from time to time justify buying monthly Navigraph subscription would be navvdata updates for some airliners and using FSHUD... Would be great if this new alternative could go FSHUD and offer navvdata updates for my pmdg Fênix and fbw Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
July 14, 20241 yr System 1: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X @ 4.2GHz, 2x16GB DDR4 2600MHz CL18 RAM, EVGA RTX 3090 FTW, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 1TB, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 512GB, Seagate 2TB HDD, Windows 11 Pro 64bit, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog. System 2: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D @ 5.7GHz, 2 x 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 RAM, ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX5090 OC, 2 x 4TB Lexar NM790 M.2 PCIe 4.0, Crucial T705 2TB Gen5 M.2, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 1TB, Moza AB9 with Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Flight Stick, Winwing Orion Rudder Pedals, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Throttle Quadrant.
July 16, 20241 yr Interesting to see the differences between the LIDO and Jep charts. For me the Jep charts have the edge in being a little clearer in terms of having all the comms info in the top section of the chart.Also the approach and MAP details are clearly sectioned with the Jep charts making it easier to find/read. Also interesting to see that the LIDO charts only cover CAT C and D aircraft. As for the planner, it looks a little bit more awkward to use as compared to Navigraph's planner. For me, being able to adjust the suggested flight plan is something I regularly do because the Simbrief routes which I fly are not typical airline routes, so always require some modification that can easily be done in Navigraph's app. I will probably try this as a 3-day trial when a few more features are implemented. SpoilerSystem specs: MFG Crosswind pedals| ACE B747 yoke |Honeycomb Bravo throttleNow built: P3Dv5.3HF2: Intel i5-12600K @4.8Ghz | MSI Z690-A PRO | Asus Dual RTX 4070 Super OC 12Gb| 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200Mhz |Samsung 980Evo Pro PCIe 500Gb | WD Black SN850 PCIe 2Tb | WD SA510 4Tb |beQuiet 802 Tower Case|Corsair RM850 PSU | Acer Predator X34P 3440x1440pMark AldridgeMSFS2024 SU5 & P3D v5.3 HF2
July 16, 20241 yr On one of A330Driver latest live streams he was asked about AviaPlanner and basically said he thought there was something doggy going on. Didn't clarify why, but certainly was not positive about it. Time will tell. System 1: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X @ 4.2GHz, 2x16GB DDR4 2600MHz CL18 RAM, EVGA RTX 3090 FTW, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 1TB, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 512GB, Seagate 2TB HDD, Windows 11 Pro 64bit, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog. System 2: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D @ 5.7GHz, 2 x 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 RAM, ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX5090 OC, 2 x 4TB Lexar NM790 M.2 PCIe 4.0, Crucial T705 2TB Gen5 M.2, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 1TB, Moza AB9 with Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Flight Stick, Winwing Orion Rudder Pedals, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Throttle Quadrant.
July 17, 20241 yr On 7/16/2024 at 9:02 AM, Dusk said: On one of A330Driver latest live streams he was asked about AviaPlanner and basically said he thought there was something doggy going on. Didn't clarify why, but certainly was not positive about it. Time will tell. Only "doggy" 🤣 thing for me was the question raised by the Navigraph CEO at SlightsimExpo2024... Not nice IMO... should have better asked something about the functionality of this new product... I just deleted my Navigraph account for good... It will impact also Simbrief, I know, but not a major problem for me... Meanwhile I am planning to subscribe to AviaPlanner. Edited July 17, 20241 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
July 17, 20241 yr Should be dodgy of course 😄 Want to do the same, but am waiting to see how AviaPlanner matures first and what MSFS 2024 will bring to the table given their Expo showing. Plus I have always preferred LIDO charts. Edited July 17, 20241 yr by Dusk System 1: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X @ 4.2GHz, 2x16GB DDR4 2600MHz CL18 RAM, EVGA RTX 3090 FTW, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 1TB, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 512GB, Seagate 2TB HDD, Windows 11 Pro 64bit, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog. System 2: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D @ 5.7GHz, 2 x 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 RAM, ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX5090 OC, 2 x 4TB Lexar NM790 M.2 PCIe 4.0, Crucial T705 2TB Gen5 M.2, Samsung 840 Pro SSD 1TB, Moza AB9 with Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Flight Stick, Winwing Orion Rudder Pedals, Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Throttle Quadrant.
July 24, 20241 yr Gets no exposure in hanger chat, subscribed for the month at £2.72 charts are great easy to read and having one chart with several Sid/star saves going though pages. Planner gets you from A to B but simbrief/navigragh is much more detailed. strange this gets moved from msfs forum when others are allowed slightly off topic. Squash the competition before it gets going? Paul BeQuiet Pure Base 500 FX - MSI Mag Tomahawk B760 - i9 14900KS - 32GB RAM - RTX 5070Ti 16GB - Kooui 34" Ultrawide Curved Monitor - TCA Officer Pack - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - WINWING MCDU
July 24, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, garlicbread11 said: strange this gets moved from msfs forum when others are allowed slightly off topic. Cause Navigraph is sim-agnostic?
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