July 20, 20241 yr Author 4 hours ago, JonathanC said: Are you certain that you (or someone else) haven't changed the way the monitor is plugged in? If you can't check that, maybe you should take your machine to a local computer shop and ask them to help. MSFS isn't the issue here. Your machine is. I'm the only one here. I used to know about video cards and stuff, but my knowledge hasn't kept up with the latest, I'm 15+ years out-of-date. Here is the back of my computer, is the picture too blurry? https://imgur.com/a/X6qDnO1
July 20, 20241 yr Are you not able to remove the case lid? It should be easy to see if the monitor cable is attached to the motherboard (on board graphics) or your Nvidia card. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
July 20, 20241 yr So Andy, if that cable towards the top right of the image you provided is the HDMI which is plugged into your monitor, then that is definitely a problem. Your graphics card HDMI port is separate from the panel with all the other connections for USB, network cable, audio plugs etc. That image is not showing a separate graphics card connection. If that is indeed the sum total of all connections at the back of your PC, I’m afraid you cannot run MSFS as you then have only an onboard ( i.e. on motherboard) graphics unit) and it will be hopelessly inadequate . It would then be quite something that you were able to run the sim on that PC previously. Edited July 20, 20241 yr by RaptyrOne GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
July 20, 20241 yr Author 7 hours ago, RaptyrOne said: So Andy, if that cable towards the top right of the image you provided is the HDMI which is plugged into your monitor, then that is definitely a problem. Your graphics card HDMI port is separate from the panel with all the other connections for USB, network cable, audio plugs etc. That image is not showing a separate graphics card connection. If that is indeed the sum total of all connections at the back of your PC, I’m afraid you cannot run MSFS as you then have only an onboard ( i.e. on motherboard) graphics unit) and it will be hopelessly inadequate . It would then be quite something that you were able to run the sim on that PC previously. Yes, I don't have a separate video card, just I've shown. Should I look into getting a separate one then? This PC is fairly new, and I don't want to throw good money at it without reason. If so, are you able to say what I should be looking at? Edited July 20, 20241 yr by andyjohnston.net
July 20, 20241 yr Late edit: RaptyrOne mentioned: “I’m afraid you cannot run MSFS as you then have only an onboard ( i.e. on motherboard) graphics unit) and it will be hopelessly inadequate . It would then be quite something that you were able to run the sim on that PC previously. “ MSFS2020 should check for compatibility before allowing installation. I noticed, besides the screenshot showing what looks like a lot of dust, the PC is a PRIME? Where is it sold and how old is it? Did it come with a list of specs? Edited July 20, 20241 yr by vonmar Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
July 20, 20241 yr Seems to me this question regarding the video card and where the monitor was was plugged in, was asked multiple times over the last few days.
July 20, 20241 yr ....and since he does not seem to have a separate graphics card, I think we all know the solution Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
July 20, 20241 yr How the heck did you ever run MSFS? 9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen
July 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, vonmar said: I noticed, besides the screenshot showing what looks like a lot of dust, the PC is a PRIME? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer ? 😮 We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
July 20, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer ? 😮 A 20 year old PC at least......🤪 Would make a good boat anchor. Edited July 20, 20241 yr by Bobsk8
July 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, andyjohnston.net said: Yes, I don't have a separate video card, just I've shown. Should I look into getting a separate one then? This PC is fairly new, and I don't want to throw good money at it without reason. If so, are you able to say what I should be looking at? Hey Andy. I take it you aren't a computer "nerd," right? Sorry for using that term, but my point is, if you aren't familiar with computers, you should probably talk to a computer shop that can install the video card that you buy, and also see if you can talk them into making sure MSFS runs with whatever video card you buy. They may charge you extra for this, but if the price they charge is reasonable, you can have a peace of mind knowing that when you take your computer home from the computer shop, everything will be working as you expect it to. At this point, if you are not too familiar with computers, I would strongly recommend that you post all the specifications of your computer here in this thread. Do not buy a video card until you are 100% sure that whatever video card you buy, will fit in your computer, and fit on your motherboard, and it also complements the CPU that you have. For example, it's a waste of money to get even one of the lower end NVidia 4000 cards, if it doesn't complement your CPU. I think if you post your computer specs in this thread, including the name/make of your motherboard, your RAM specs and CPU specs, people here can give you advice on what is a good video card to buy. Post as much information as you can, with as much detail as you can. Furthermore, I suggest that you get the computer shop you buy the card from, to put the card into your computer for you. It's not that difficult to put in the video card if you have done it before, but if you are not that knowledgeable about computer hardware, it's better to be safe than sorry. And of course, see if you can talk the computer shop into making sure MSFS runs for you when they put the video card in (but they may charge extra for this). One last thing. There are some prebuilt desktop computers that don't really allow modification of it, meaning you can't upgrade the parts of your computer, even if you wanted to. These computers are usually cheaper, but the downside is because they are cheaper and they are prebuilt, there are certain things that you cannot modify or upgrade. Make 100% sure that if you do buy a video card, that your computer can be upgraded (this is where the people at the computer should would come in, they would know when they take a look at your computer, or if you showed them photos of your computer, including the inside of your computer). Edited July 20, 20241 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
July 20, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer ? 😮 I had previously read about the Prime Supermincomputer 32 bit [see my screenshot] also shown further down in your link but not a PC version? Did you see mention of the Prime PC as in the OP’S previous screenshot? Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
July 20, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: A 20 year old PC at least......🤪 Would make a good boat anchor. A few posts prior the OP mentioned: "This PC is fairly new, and I don't want to throw good money at it without reason. " Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
July 20, 20241 yr 21 hours ago, andyjohnston.net said: In the past, I could run MSFS just fine. Has something changed within the program which would make it that different? Did you try a "restore" prior to the last update ie. go back to the 'past'? Additional troubleshooting tips: 1. Make sure settings are set to default in the bios, cpu and gpu 2. Run Malwarebytes and WIndows Security 3. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk 4. Run Steam's file integrity checker (if using Steam) 5. Disable the community folder 6. Uninstall and re-install GPU drivers 7. Run CCleaner 8. Run HD Tune Pro 9. Run Prime98 or IntelBurnTest with RealTemp (if using an Intel cpu) 10. Backup and restore a good image of the drives involved 11. Open the PC and check that components are clean and that all connections are good 12. Replace MSFS drive and restore a known good image If all of the above tests pass and you still have a problem then the last resort would be to replace the PC. Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
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