August 17, 20241 yr 58 minutes ago, mspencer said: FSL has missed the boat. FSL is dead. Long live FSL. They likely have missed the boat on the A320/A321/A319 CEO. But still plenty to work with in regards to the A320neo series, A330, A340. But I have no idea what they have planned 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
August 17, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, bennyboy75 said: I must say that I can’t get too excited about Concorde. It’s been grounded now almost for as long as it was in service and it’s very niche. Don't limit yourself to only in service planes. You miss out on so much. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
August 17, 20241 yr I wouldn’t pronounce them dead, but they will definitely put themselves on complex situation. If they really have innovations like they’re saying, they will probably have a market share to claim. 9800X3D@H150i // Msi RTX 5090 Trio OC // 64GB DDR5 6000mhz CL30 // 2TB + 1TB Nvme Dell 27" 2127DGF - 1440p - Gsync - 165hz Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus // TCA Quadrant Airbus // TFRP T.Flight Rudder Pedals // Logitech Flight Multi Panel
August 17, 20241 yr I guess the question is would most simmers care about the differences between CEO/NEO? And by most simmers I mean exactly the bulk of the market that make MSFS so lucrative for developers. At this point, if we look at the market from that perspective, we have three A320s and now the variants are covered as well. We also have two A330s coming as well. Other than the Concorde and A340 – what’s left? Edited August 17, 20241 yr by Georgleboui
August 17, 20241 yr A220 Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
August 17, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Christopher Low said: A220 That would be really exciting! That is a plane that if FSL did to their quality standards I would certainly purchase. But as others are alluding to, I do not see myself purchasing another A320 CEO aircraft, regardless of novelty features. MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
August 17, 20241 yr Flight sim needs every quality developer we can get. Let's see what they will come up with.
August 17, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Georgleboui said: I guess the question is would most simmers care about the differences between CEO/NEO? And by most simmers I mean exactly the bulk of the market that make MSFS so lucrative for developers. At this point, if we look at the market from that perspective, we have three A320s and now the variants are covered as well. We also have two A330s coming as well. Other than the Concorde and A340 – what’s left? If they add some value to it, I’m sure people will buy it. We just need to know what they mean by “features not seen before (or whatever phrase they used)”. If the plane is really better than the others, people would buy. BUT there’s also the possibility their first plane won’t be the A320. Like others have said, we need to know the product first, so we can evaluate. 9800X3D@H150i // Msi RTX 5090 Trio OC // 64GB DDR5 6000mhz CL30 // 2TB + 1TB Nvme Dell 27" 2127DGF - 1440p - Gsync - 165hz Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus // TCA Quadrant Airbus // TFRP T.Flight Rudder Pedals // Logitech Flight Multi Panel
August 17, 20241 yr On 8/15/2024 at 9:21 AM, abrams_tank said: Thanks for these charts! I'll have to check up on the Marketplace presentation from FSExpo. Overall, Windows + Steam revenue is 60%, so PC revenue is higher than XBox (I assume the chart meant Windows 10 + Windows 11, I don't know why it just says Win 10). What would be interesting to know is the sales of the more expensive add-ons for X-Box like the PMDG 737. If XBox users are willing to pay as much as PC users for the expensive add-ons (ie. add-ons that are $50 or more greater), that would be a very lucrative market for some of the add-on makers that make the more premium add-ons. There's a TON of good info in that preso. Straight from the CMO, too. They talk about addon pricing, too. 😉 HIGHLY recommended.
August 18, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, ca_metal said: I wouldn’t pronounce them dead, but they will definitely put themselves on complex situation. If they really have innovations like they’re saying, they will probably have a market share to claim. I mean, what else can they innovate that Fenix hasn’t?
August 18, 20241 yr Panel states would be the only additional feature I can think of and OOOI. Nothing I really care about or disrupt me from flying. Edited August 18, 20241 yr by carlanthony24
August 18, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, ca_metal said: If they add some value to it, I’m sure people will buy it. We just need to know what they mean by “features not seen before (or whatever phrase they used)”. If the plane is really better than the others, people would buy. BUT there’s also the possibility their first plane won’t be the A320. Like others have said, we need to know the product first, so we can evaluate. The first product for MSFS is for shure the Concorde, i belive there working already a long time on this behind the scene.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
August 18, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, ATRguy said: I mean, what else can they innovate that Fenix hasn’t? Agreed…I honestly have no idea. Fenix pretty much dominated the 320 series market in terms of visuals and fidelity. AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090 FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman Current 777 CAPT
August 18, 20241 yr Take me back to the days of the big wide body jets like the L1011 and the roaring sounds of the Boeing 707 & DC-9. Aircraft that burned so much fuel that air pollution wasn't even a consideration, where the black smoke billowing out of your engines on takeoff meant they were working right. Aircraft that I have to fly, not program for 30 minutes like we're making a trip to the Sea of Tranquility on the moon. Big heavy wide bodies that behave like an ex-wife does when you're late bringing back the kids from a fishing trip late at night; pure dread, white knuckle time... Hours of absolute boredom interrupted by seconds of sheer terror as you look over at your 24 year old co-pilot with a look on his face like he just messed his shorts. Andrew
August 18, 20241 yr Well, let's see what they come up with. In the past, they were the most advanced Airbus sim out there, and I've flown their planes many times. But nothing perfect, and their planes fly way too much like they're on rails, and some reactions are even demonstrably wrong - and they don't even admit it when you tell them. So what I don't miss is the eternal wait for an update due to all the workarounds they always use, the snootiness with which the developers have always appeared - and the prices.
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