28 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

Glad it is separate, Bern-Belp and Salzburg Airport self installed with scenery. 

I think there's a bit of misunderstanding here. EDDM - just as Bern-Belp and Salzburg - was installed as part of the WU package. What @Farlis probably meant was that EDDM is indeed a separate part of the WU like the 2 others you mentioned. So do what Farlis wrote to get rid of the WU EDDM.

9 minutes ago, SierraDelta said:

I think there's a bit of misunderstanding here. EDDM - just as Bern-Belp and Salzburg - was installed as part of the WU package. What @Farlis probably meant was that EDDM is indeed a separate part of the WU like the 2 others you mentioned. So do what Farlis wrote to get rid of the WU EDDM.

All of them are seperate, even LOWS and LSZB. You just have to go into the content manager and deinstall them from the world update folder if you don't want them

Microsoft always does it like this in their World Updates. The package is always subdived in between POI, Airports, TIN Cities and Missions, all of which can be seperately selected and deselected.

The only thing that you can't get rid of is the DEM and the updated satelite imagery, should there be any. But these are cloud based anyway.

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by Farlis

Which Munich is better? As well as Salzburg (compared to the Digital Design one)?

18 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Which Munich is better?

The SimWings version has the recent Terminal 1 extension, which the Asobo / Gaya version doesn't. I haven't compared them visually yet, but to me a current ground layout is kind of the decider anyway. 

I am not very impressed with the hand crafted version of EDDM Munich. I appreciate that this will not be quite as detailed as a full payware version, but the place looks like a hollowed out shell! Any interior areas are totally empty (which makes me wonder why they have been modelled as interiors in the first place), and what looks like a huge multi level car park is about as bare bones as I have ever seen one. In addition, there are sections of road flyovers that are blocks raised several feet above the connecting roads. What is that all about??

This is a good example of why I think that creating hand crafted versions of very large airports is a bad idea. Too much work is required to "fill in" the place with detail. Smaller airports like LSZB Bern are a much better target for hand crafted airports in world updates, and that is where I am heading right now....

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by Christopher Low

11 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

This is a good example of why I think that creating hand crafted versions of very large airports is a bad idea. Too much work is required to "fill in" the place with detail. Smaller airports like LSZB Bern are a much better target for hand crafted airports in world updates, and that is where I am heading right now....

I quite agree. I understand that Microsoft wants to cater for the average simmer who doesn't buy (many) addon airports but it is a shame they spend time on developing airports that are available already.
With the previous WU I had All airports already purchased from third parties. With this one, only 2 out of 3 I already have.

Disabling them again isn't the issue; figuring out which one to keep is...

I am not going to fly into EDDM enough to justify a paid update, so the WU one is fine for me.

 

Any opinions of the included version of LOWS?  I just bought the payware version in the last sale, d’oh!

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by regis9

Quick flight from Bern over to somewhere random in the East, not long only 25mins or so in a GA, the terrain certainly looks decent where I was, not sure if it was 1m DEM but in places it looked pretty close (will fly in Austria next time).

Switzerland's DEM hasn't changed since the the first world update that covered it, they already have the best data.

  

1 hour ago, orchestra_nl said:

I quite agree. I understand that Microsoft wants to cater for the average simmer who doesn't buy (many) addon airports but it is a shame they spend time on developing airports that are available already.

According to the last Dev Q&A, Gaya was making this Munich as a payware release, but Microsoft (Jorg) asked if they could use it for the world update instead.

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

3 hours ago, Farlis said:

The new EDDM was very much a seperate install. Just type in EDDM in your Content Manager and deinstall the Microsoft one.

Not for me.

I have simwings version and I searched EDDM in content manager. It found two versions, one simwings and the other part of WU XVIII. However, when I uninstalled EDDM as part of the WUXVIII, it uninstalled the entire world update.

Just downloading the 11.83GB WU again!

Looks like I'll have to delete the simwings version

Stu

7 minutes ago, MarcG said:

Quick flight from Bern over to somewhere random in the East, not long only 25mins or so in a GA, the terrain certainly looks decent where I was, not sure if it was 1m DEM but in places it looked pretty close (will fly in Austria next time).

Were the colours and photogrammetry ok around Bern? I just did a very short test, colours washed out like crazy and photogrammetry tree blobs all over. Not even close to what was shown in the trailer. 

4 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Switzerland's DEM hasn't changed since the the first world update that covered it, they already have the best data.

Release Notes say different;

Most of Austria, and parts of Germany and Switzerland feature new digital elevation modelling with resolution as great as one meter

3 minutes ago, MarcG said:

Release Notes say different;

Most of Austria, and parts of Germany and Switzerland feature new digital elevation modelling with resolution as great as one meter

Might be a mistake in the notes, because the DEM comparison map they showed in Q&A did not show any differences in Switzerland.

They also didn't mention Switzerland DEM at all, just Germany.

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

1 minute ago, AnkH said:

Were the colours and photogrammetry ok around Bern? I just did a very short test, colours washed out like crazy and photogrammetry tree blobs all over. Not even close to what was shown in the trailer. 

I didn't really see, it was quite a turbulent ride so I was concentrating on not falling out the sky 😄 didn't get a chance to look around until it settled down a bit by which time I was well away from Bern.