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Active Sky vs. Default

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5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

So that could be the limiting factor. 

It begs other questions:  why is it necessary that Xbox S becomes the limiting factor?  Why no ability to have for example alternate rendering pathways (starting w/ the same data from MB) but allowing better hardware like ours to have greater resolution rendering?  I clearly don't understand the limitations of voxel based volumetric rendering but I have the sense there simply aren't enough voxels per cubic area to allow for distinct forms that the various cloud types manifest.  It's like trying to make a sculpture of Michelangelo out of cotton candy!  If there is something built-in to the rendering model such that it must be tuned to the lowest common denominator else it doesn't work then we're perhaps stuck with this model until 2028 when next gen Xbox debuts which is touted to have major increase in everything performance-wise.  My guess is we might see a little bump up in cloud resolution for 2024 as they tune the algorithm for the times.  Maybe for what Xbox Series X can handle.  

There might also be the possibility of having a kind of DynamicLOD for cloud rendering, where the closer you are the more dense the voxels whereas out in the distance can remain lower resolution.  

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  • Been using Active Sky since it was released. Like the different varieties of  clouds instead of cumulous only, lightning and thunder and realistic turbulence. 

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  • I'm using active sky in passive mode. So it only draws clouds while feeding weather directly from MSFS. It's nice to navigate between "cells"    

7 hours ago, Cognita said:

I do not think that will ever happen, what I am hoping for is that they build in more flexibility in the options, so that those with more powerful hardware can increase the settings far more than they can now for things like cloud depiction. Then those with a  700X3D and 4090 and take advantage of their hardware, as can someone with a much lower spec system. More options and more sliders! This was not done on 2020 maybe as it launched for PC only, but maybe with experience they will have given PC owners more flexibility in 2024.

I of course also agree with that.

I'm using active sky in passive mode. So it only draws clouds while feeding weather directly from MSFS. It's nice to navigate between "cells"

 

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Even though nothing is perfect I much prefer the subtlety of Active Sky mode.

Passive mode.

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Passive mode.

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I was a big fan of AS for P3D & XP but passed on the MSFS because of the initial reviews. It seems to have matured. I think that JF does offer a money back guarantee. Even with MSFS 2024, it might be worth a test. I will probably need help because I do NOT want to see any abrupt weather transitions.

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10 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

I'm using active sky in passive mode. So it only draws clouds while feeding weather directly from MSFS. It's nice to navigate between "cells"

 

Nice pictures but from my understanding, in passive mode it draws nothing! Its just processing the data (smoothing winds, turbulence effects etc.). What you SEE is 100% MSFS default weather.

3 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

Nice pictures but from my understanding, in passive mode it draws nothing! Its just processing the data (smoothing winds, turbulence effects etc.). What you SEE is 100% MSFS default weather.

It draws clouds because if I turns it off the weather depiction may look different from the stock.

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I also run AS in passive mode. It works for me giving me the most realistic experience available. Hopefully in FS2024, Asobo will allow more control for 3rd party weather apps as far as cloud injections.

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53 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

It draws clouds because if I turns it off the weather depiction may look different from the stock.

Are you positive??! when you turn on passive mode it states "Weather depiction will be supplied by MSFS live weather, while air effects and other AS functionality remain active"

So if MSFS depicts (read: draws) the weather, what does AS draw??

 

In active mode its actually  controls  the clouds by periodically injecting a static "theme" based on the reported or projected conditions.

 

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1 hour ago, ha5mvo said:

Are you positive??! when you turn on passive mode it states "Weather depiction will be supplied by MSFS live weather, while air effects and other AS functionality remain active"

So if MSFS depicts (read: draws) the weather, what does AS draw??

 

In active mode its actually  controls  the clouds by periodically injecting a static "theme" based on the reported or projected conditions.

 

I thought it make visible different when I switch AS on and off

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2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

I thought it make visible different when I switch AS on and off

Passive mode does not effect clouds at all...only turbulence/wind effects.  I use AS in Passive mode all the time.

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I like what Active Sky gives me, and reading my signature below shows that is important to me.  I do flight planning including route weather.  Then I fly and do not scrutinize metars at each airport along the way.  I just fly and enjoy what accuracy it gives me.  It is  most often very accurate at my departure and destination.

FYI, I do not obsess over framerates either.  AutoFPS and my RTX 3080 gave me great smoothness. My new system with a RTX 4080 Super, installed late this week, does not disappoint either.

So I fly.  I do not obsess!

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I'm only bringing this back because I decided to use some discount points and get ASFS and I'm very impressed with how it depicts the weather, features, and the performance. I absolutely recommend it if you want better default live weather or improved cloud depiction when AS takes control of the weather. The UI is the same as all other sims and it's just great. Thanks to everyone who added their input.

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On 8/31/2024 at 3:51 AM, ha5mvo said:

Nice pictures but from my understanding, in passive mode it draws nothing! Its just processing the data (smoothing winds, turbulence effects etc.). What you SEE is 100% MSFS default weather.

THIS is correct.  And I’m flying with AS right now in Passive. Asobo Clouds.  AS Turbulence and more but no WX depiction.
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