6 minutes ago, Torsen said:

A nightmare for all 3rd party devs.

I'm sorry.. how?

2 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

I'm sorry.. how?

Don't get me wrong. It is at least a sign of progress and any sign of progress in regards of giving a relief to the 3rd party devs is good. But still nightmare cause there is still no timing for when 3rd party products will be available. Let us hope that the remaining issues get resolved in the next days but the reason why the marketplace was opened is quite clear.

I have no interest in Brazil so won't install it but I'm very grateful to have access to some of the default aircraft I didn't have before. I thought it would be much longer before they were available. 3rd party addons will start to appear soon I'm sure. 

27 minutes ago, psolk said:

Doesn't seem to make sense... 

This was a typo that has since been corrected on the MSFS Forum post:

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MSFS 2020 Content: Content that has been ported to MSFS 2024 and is available for sale in the Marketplace (because the Creator has confirmed that it works in MSFS 2024) will include a MSFS 2020 logo in the upper left corner of the thumbnail image so you will know that it was not (emphasis mine) created natively in MSFS 2024.

 

31 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

Anyone knows why  , when i switch to "installed"  my airports from ORBX is labeled/image with MSFS2020 to the left ?

I have ORBX installed these and would suspect them to be 2024 ready but why labeled as MSFS2020?

It's fairly straightforward: if the item has a MSFS 2020 label, then it is the same package as was in MSFS 2020, now running in your MSFS 2024. The developer has tested the package and found that it works sufficiently well to use in 2024. It is not a native 2024 package built with the 2024 dev tools and new features, it is simply the 2020 package running in 2024.

If, in this example, ORBX built new versions of these packages with the 2024 dev tools and released them as native 2024 packages, then they would no longer have this label.

Thanks as always @MattNischan seemed a bit off, that make a LOT more sense. 

6 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

I have no interest in Brazil so won't install it but I'm very grateful to have access to some of the default aircraft I didn't have before. I thought it would be much longer before they were available. 3rd party addons will start to appear soon I'm sure. 

You dont need to install anything, you just have to enable it. it will be streamed on demand, nothing will be downloaded.

1 minute ago, MattNischan said:

This was a typo that has since been corrected on the MSFS Forum post:

 

It's fairly straightforward: if the item has a MSFS 2020 label, then it is the same package as was in MSFS 2020, now running in your MSFS 2024. The developer has tested the package and found that it works sufficiently well to use in 2024. It is not a native 2024 package built with the 2024 dev tools and new features, it is simply the 2020 package running in 2024.

If, in this example, ORBX built new versions of these packages with the 2024 dev tools and released them as native 2024 packages, then they would no longer have this label.

Matt,

I signed off all my projects weeks ago, but this is still not reflected in the marketplace tag. This is (I suspect) because they are still in the process to publish everything, etc.

I think the official news text is trying to explain what the tags means, etc. which is true but unfortunately is not reflecting currently the reality at the moment since as explained, I have approved all my products as "compatible" and ready for market place 2024, however until they put all 3rd party products available the tags for anything 2020 will remain saying is not approved, despite some devs might have approved them already.

People will need to continue to remain patient until all 3rd party content starts to flow, then the guidelines provided will apply.

Best,

Raul.

2 minutes ago, Cyrex1984 said:

You dont need to install anything, you just have to enable it. it will be streamed on demand, nothing will be downloaded.

I know. I should have said I won't enable it, my bad. 

Edited March 11, 20251 yr by St Mawgan

2 minutes ago, simbol said:

I think the official news text is trying to explain what the tags means, etc. which is true but unfortunately is not reflecting currently the reality at the moment since as explained, I have approved all my products as "compatible" and ready for market place 2024, however until they put all 3rd party products available the tags for anything 2020 will remain saying is not approved, despite some devs might have approved them already.

Yes, my post was indicating what the tag means when you see it on your installed products. It does not reflect which of those products have made it through the ingestion process into the 2024 Marketplace. There are definitely some products that have started to come through with the 2020 label, as indicated by the previous poster and their ORBX packages, but the official forums (for users) or your marketplace partner contact (for developers) would be the correct place to get any updates on specific product status.

I try not to complain too much, if at all, but I shot into the market place to see if the P-180 is there, but it isn't - no third party stuff.  This adds to my other two gripes about the sim.  TLOD is awful, meaning no airborne traffic can be seen (unless it is really close), even over busy airspace like LA or New York. Secondly, every time 2024 loads and I watch that helicopter flying over field of crops swaying in the wind, AND visible way off into the distance, I do feel just a tad lied to.

I love 2024, but a Marketplace release with no third party addons is quite annoying. Why not just wait until it is ACTUALLY ready?

24 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

This was a typo that has since been corrected on the MSFS Forum post:

 

It's fairly straightforward: if the item has a MSFS 2020 label, then it is the same package as was in MSFS 2020, now running in your MSFS 2024. The developer has tested the package and found that it works sufficiently well to use in 2024. It is not a native 2024 package built with the 2024 dev tools and new features, it is simply the 2020 package running in 2024.

If, in this example, ORBX built new versions of these packages with the 2024 dev tools and released them as native 2024 packages, then they would no longer have this label.

Thanks so basic 20/24 versions

I just thought LSZH was using some MSFS2024 features and therefor a native version. Its also installed in a different folder by ORBX. but thanks 

Michael Moe 

I am totally confused when it comes to installing stuff... I use MSFS2024 only: how do I see what will be installed (as on my PC) and what will be streamed? I just noticed a few parts of World Update UKII (old updates from MSFS2020, I presume?) are not installed, like some POI's. Everything else is installed by default... well, not installed, it shows it is streamed. Now if I chose to install those POI's... will they be installed or streamed...?

I also am confused with the Brasil update. I thought that in MSFS2024 everything was streamed so... why do I need to 'buy' it...? I expected it simply would be there, ready to be streamed, if I ever decide to fly in Brasil. But no, now I have to buy it and... install it... or stream it...?

Very confusing. I expected MSFS2024 to be easier (it's all stream, go fly) but it's more complicated. 

I also have no clue if something is MSFS2024 only or not. I suppose that if it says '2020' it's old stuff and everything else is new...? Why are all world updates shown as they were in 2020? I thought they would be part of the base sim in 2024? Can I still disable world updates? And if so, why...? It's all streamer...?

Utterly confusing...

Edited March 11, 20251 yr by mistolip

53 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I try not to complain too much, if at all, but I shot into the market place to see if the P-180 is there, but it isn't - no third party stuff.  This adds to my other two gripes about the sim.  TLOD is awful, meaning no airborne traffic can be seen (unless it is really close), even over busy airspace like LA or New York. Secondly, every time 2024 loads and I watch that helicopter flying over field of crops swaying in the wind, AND visible way off into the distance, I do feel just a tad lied to.

I love 2024, but a Marketplace release with no third party addons is quite annoying. Why not just wait until it is ACTUALLY ready?

I prefer rapid incremental progress over stretched out monolithic releases.

Especially when it comes to regaining access to content I already own.

And I only still have v20 installed for access to ITS marketplace. Would like to get that 100GBs of disk space back asap.

If nothing else, this limited release could be considered to be a "load test", which is something we all know they're trying to get right.

Edited March 11, 20251 yr by UrgentSiesta

2 hours ago, mistolip said:

I am totally confused when it comes to installing stuff... I use MSFS2024 only: how do I see what will be installed (as on my PC) and what will be streamed? I just noticed a few parts of World Update UKII (old updates from MSFS2020, I presume?) are not installed, like some POI's. Everything else is installed by default... well, not installed, it shows it is streamed. Now if I chose to install those POI's... will they be installed or streamed...?

I also am confused with the Brasil update. I thought that in MSFS2024 everything was streamed so... why do I need to 'buy' it...? I expected it simply would be there, ready to be streamed, if I ever decide to fly in Brasil. But no, now I have to buy it and... install it... or stream it...?

Very confusing. I expected MSFS2024 to be easier (it's all stream, go fly) but it's more complicated. 

I also have no clue if something is MSFS2024 only or not. I suppose that if it says '2020' it's old stuff and everything else is new...? Why are all world updates shown as they were in 2020? I thought they would be part of the base sim in 2024? Can I still disable world updates? And if so, why...? It's all streamer...?

Utterly confusing...

I suspect there are still local files that you have to download in addition to streaming. So you can always opt out if you don't want it. 

An utterly embarrassing UI design. Looks about as large and clunky as you can get. Anyone who looks at that design philosophy and doesn’t think it’s tailored for Xbox is delusional. PC is not their target audience. They may not say it out loud but their design choices speak volumes.