I too am waiting for the IFLY 738 Max before I switch.  Also they need to fix the audio crackling/stutter.  

 

 

Uninstalled 2020 a few weeks ago. Enough in 2024 right now to keep me busy, but I'm eagerly awaiting the IFLY Max and 77W to come across.

Also, Su3 is looking very promising from what I've seen. Lighting finally looks like it's been fixed.

57 minutes ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Yes I can't wait. Flying the 

727 and the 300-600 right now.

Waiting on the new update to start flying the CRJ again.

All 3 planes flying very well in 2024

 

 

I'm not a 300 guy, but I love flying the 727 in MSFS2024.  Just awesome!

2 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

2024 is far from the great leap you guys are making it out to be.

At least for the hard core simmer that has 2020 working just fine after 4 years of hard work. The difference is really quite subtle, and let's not forget how very bad 2020 was when it first came out.

Outside of cities at ground level though, the leap in graphics is huge. It's like  a generarional leap in graphics at the ground level, the difference between a Playstation 3 vs Playstation 4, about a 7 years leap in graphics.

Check out the lake besides Mount Fuji in Japan in MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024:

And check out El Capitan in Yosemite in MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024: 

There are so many locations like this that you can compare in MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024. In hindsight, i don't think they pushed the graphics technology at the ground level outside of cities as hard as they could in MSFS 2020. But I think they pushed it as far as they can in MSFS 2024. The graphics at the ground level in MSFS 2024 matches some new open world games released in 2024/2025 (not closed world and closed map games though released in 2024/2025). I can't say that when MSFS 2020 was released, that it matched the graphics of newly released 2020/2021 open world games. I certainly can't say that of any flight simulator in the decade before MSFS 2020 either.

Somehow, if they release an MSFS 2028, I don't expect a huge leap in graphics outside of cities between MSFS 2024 and MSFS 2028.  Maybe they can improve the graphics inside cities though between MSFS 2024 and MSFS 2028. But outside of cities at the ground level, I would be surpised if MSFS 2028 looks like a generational gap in graphics.

Edited June 10, 2025Jun 10 by abrams_tank

2 hours ago, cobalt said:

Sorry, but I have to disagree with the part boldfaced above. I have a nearly 5-year-old computer with its original video card (Alienware Aurora R11, 32 GB ram, Intel i7-10700F, GeForce RTX 2080 Super, Ultra/high  graphics settings) and I am seeing smooth performance even in high-density scenery areas. I will never see the 100+ FPS that some claim to see with high-powered rigs, but I couldn't care less, because 30 FPS in MSFS2024 is the smoothest flying I have ever experienced. In contrast to what is said above, I think the truth is the opposite: MSFS2024 works better with older systems than MSFS2020 or its predecessors. For most users, I suspect no PC upgrade is required at all.

OK not a pissing match here...the age of the PC doesn't matter, it was a general reference.  For instance, I have a GTX1080Ti, you are a leap and a yard more than me, you have an i7-10700 - while I have an i7-6700, a mother board z170, but 32 gig RAM...to be clear, I said "to get the most out of it"...as it is I can't run 2020 with full settings, so I doubt very much my specs would allow me to make the highest settings (ie get the most out of it).  That's all, nothing more, nothing less.  Oh, and I have no idea what Alienware Aurora R11 is, so I would have to look that up.  I look forward to a future upgrade, possibly.

cheers.

It all sounds great, and I applaud the improvements.  I do have one thing that in 2020 really bugs me, northern BC Canada, is unfinished, the graphics are not complete and the scenery out the window looks terrible...its seems its ignored...me wondering if this has been improved in 2024...I use XP exclusively with ortho when flying northern Canada.  Would be nice for MS to give this area some TLC, there are hundreds of small airports and towns with local strips in those isolated areas.

cheers.

3 hours ago, Darcy said:

I too am waiting for the IFLY 738 Max before I switch.  Also they need to fix the audio crackling/stutter.  

 

 

This. Audio popping is driving me crazy!

I'm with some who feel that after some time with it, MSFS2024 becomes your sim.

Today I did a flight to KMSN, an old stomping ground, late day, with live weather and the ground textures and lighting were fantastic.

Blown away yet again.

dd

 

Edited June 10, 2025Jun 10 by Sky_Pilot071

5 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Outside of cities at ground level though, the leap in graphics is huge. It's like  a generarional leap in graphics at the ground level, the difference between a Playstation 3 vs Playstation 4, about a 7 years leap in graphics.

Check out the lake besides Mount Fuji in Japan in MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024:

And check out El Capitan in Yosemite in MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024: 

There are so many locations like this that you can compare in MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024. In hindsight, i don't think they pushed the graphics technology at the ground level outside of cities as hard as they could in MSFS 2020. But I think they pushed it as far as they can in MSFS 2024. The graphics at the ground level in MSFS 2024 matches some new open world games released in 2024/2025 (not closed world and closed map games though released in 2024/2025). I can't say that when MSFS 2020 was released, that it matched the graphics of newly released 2020/2021 open world games. I certainly can't say that of any flight simulator in the decade before MSFS 2020 either.

Somehow, if they release an MSFS 2028, I don't expect a huge leap in graphics outside of cities between MSFS 2024 and MSFS 2028.  Maybe they can improve the graphics inside cities though between MSFS 2024 and MSFS 2028. But outside of cities at the ground level, I would be surpised if MSFS 2028 looks like a generational gap in graphics.

This comparison (8 months ago) is no longer valid, MSFS2020 now with SU16 shares the same Aerial images, the same DEM data and the same Vector Data (Roads, Buildings, Water Bdies) as MSFS2024, so the actual graphic improvement is given only by the light, the trees and the terrain details in very low flight level 

Edited June 10, 2025Jun 10 by LIML2020

After three months trying to love MSFS2024 I went back to 2020.  I just can't handle the stuttering on landing and taxying, all the audio popping, with far reduced settings than what I would be running 2020 on.  If I could sort this then by all means I'd be uninstalling 2020, but it's too immersion breaking to have all the juddering each time I turn on the taxiway, with LODs down to 100, even on default airports.

I am running a gaming laptop with a 3080.  I guess I'll make the move back to 2024  when I can upgrade my system, as it clearly isn't up to scratch.  

I think I've said that before in another thread, what 2024 does well for me is the feel of travelling to places that feels unmatched by any other sim including 2020. And yeah look I see XP12 over there looking great and it's tempting, and it's hard to ignore how much of a struggle some of the addons I like are having with 2024. 

And then you have a flight that just reminds you why it's so special. I got this contract in OnAir to deliver some hikers to a remote station up near Mahaanui. Basically a dirt strip, not even in any GPS or Skyvector. 
 

The sheer immersion of stepping out of the plane somewhere interesting, and seeing/hearing/exploring the surroundings is just incredible. Really makes you feel like you've actually travelled somewhere. I think for that reason alone I could never go back to 2020, even though it was in a way a stepping stone to getting here.

 

9 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Yes I can't wait. Flying the 

727 and the 300-600 right now.

Waiting on the new update to start flying the CRJ again.

All 3 planes flying very well in 2024

 

 

Are you able to use the 73's in 2024?

Not that it matters, but I've got a few minutes to spare so I'll add my vote for 2024, so to speak.

I pretty much jumped straight in (after the dust settled a bit, about a week) and have been here ever since. Still got a full (and separate) 2020 installation, but rarely use it now - just occasionally to check something out or run a comparison or similar. The main things for me are the visuals, of course. I care not a whit for the whole piloting experience, but flying down at anything between a couple of thousand feet ("high altitude" as I like to call it) and treetop height it just looks stunning. There are plenty of places though where the PG totally lets it down - the dreaded tree obelisks of course - but I can live with that largely due to Bijan's constant efforts to mask that stuff out. And the LOD / popping issues get to me big time.

But even so, I love the startup and shutdown speed, and the fact that I can add and remove streamed marketplace stuff on the fly is great. I had worried about the streaming aspect initially but now I actually think it's great. And performance is well up on 2020 for me, particularly with the AMD frame doubling option thingy.

I find I don't have the urge to buy big addon airports so much now, as I prefer the little out-of-the-way places by far. Plus, most of my 2020 addons seem to work fine (and I have a huge number of those) - I've only found a couple of planes that won't work in 2024 (but bear in mind that "work" for me just means hot start and away, I doubt that I've clicked a switch in any cockpit in 2024, and not much more in 2020).

So 2024 is here to stay for me. Now if they can just sort out the LODs and the BLOBs .  .  .

4 hours ago, LIML2020 said:

This comparison (8 months ago) is no longer valid, MSFS2020 now with SU16 shares the same Aerial images, the same DEM data and the same Vector Data (Roads, Buildings, Water Bdies) as MSFS2024, so the actual graphic improvement is given only by the light, the trees and the terrain details in very low flight level 

It is relevant and you are incorrect. What makes the graphics different in those videos are the vegetation, trees, and the rocks. It literally transforms MSFS 2024 ground graphics to an entire generation of advanced graphics outside of cities.

The lake beside Mount Fuji and the ground level of El Capitan look nothing like that in MSFS 2020 because MSFS 2020 doesn't have the vegetation and trees, plus the rocks and boulders that MSFS 2024 has (that video doesn't show much of the trees and vegetation around the lake at Mt Fuji, but go there in MSFS 2024 and look for yourself - it looks way, way, better than MSFS 2020).

And mind you, when you look at the El Capitan comparison from the ground level and compare the pictures, the vegetation and trees alone make up some 1/3 of the entire picture, and that's what puts MSFS 2024 so far ahead in graphics at the ground level.

Edited June 10, 2025Jun 10 by abrams_tank

@Georgleboui Is that the default Goose or the Big Radial one?