...and I don't regret a thing. I am generally still very satisfied with Navigraph's offering, since Jeppesen charts are used globally, and their app is amazing, as we all know. In Europe however, LIDO charts are more common, used for example by the likes of LH Group (obviously), AF-KLM, AIG, and others. I access the charts on https://planner.flightsimulator.com/ on my iPad while I fly in MSFS 2020. What surprised me most was how much up-to-date they are, in fact I saw some with effective date in mid July 2025. Honestly, even paying $70 just for (basically) a lifetime subscription would be an insane value proposition. And here we even get the game on top, so to speak. Big thanks, Microsoft/Asobo!

Edited July 13, 2025Jul 13 by thepilot

52 minutes ago, thepilot said:

...and I don't regret a thing. I am generally still very satisfied with Navigraph's offering, since Jeppesen charts are used globally, and their app is amazing, as we all know. In Europe however, LIDO charts are more common, used for example by the likes of LH Group (obviously), AF-KLM, AIG, and others. I access the charts on https://planner.flightsimulator.com/ on my iPad while I fly in MSFS 2020. What surprised me most was how much up-to-date they are, in fact I saw some with effective date in mid July 2025. Honestly, even paying $70 just for (basically) a lifetime subscription would be an insane value proposition. And here we even get the game on top, so to speak. Big thanks, Microsoft/Asobo!

MSFS 2024 just gives so much value.  In general, I think we got so much value from MSFS over the last 5 years.  So many free planes, and so many World Updates, all the avionics from Working Title, all for free.  When I think of all the free planes we got, from top 3rd party developers too, that adds so much value over time.  And I can't even imagine how much it would cost, to go out and buy payware version of the G1000 NXi, G3000, G5000, G3X, GNS 530, GNS 430, Honeywell Primus Epic 2, Universal UNS-1 (if those existed for payware) - Working Title has provided all of these avionics to us for free.

Edited July 13, 2025Jul 13 by abrams_tank

I completely agree. I cancelled my Navigraph subscription a long time ago. 

The MS flight planner is improving steadily, thanks to the WT team. 

And, of course, all the great free avionics suites. 

As I always say: MSFS 2024 puts money in your pocket!

Yea, I am also close to cancelling Navigraph. The only issue is I wish the third-party aircraft developers would adjust and allow us to download the Flight Planner routes to the aircraft. However, I am getting close to just accepting that I may need to manually add my route and data and let Navigraph go.  At least half my flights are now GA in nature an those I already use the Planner for and enter manually and while LIDO is reportedly not as comprehensive as Navigraph Jeppesen, I have not experienced any issues workout out a route in the Planner. Really, Hats off to Working Title and to Microsoft for providing this.

24 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

I completely agree. I cancelled my Navigraph subscription a long time ago. 

The MS flight planner is improving steadily, thanks to the WT team. 

And, of course, all the great free avionics suites. 

As I always say: MSFS 2024 puts money in your pocket!

Yup, this is why MSFS is so good. At times, it really feels like MSFS puts money in your pocket!  (of course it doesn't, but just saying, lol)

Sorry if this is a bit off topic… but I want to use the built in flight planner in FS24 as it sounds pretty darn good.  I’m thinking of getting the iFly 737 max… Will it import the flight plan from the sim automatically or I’ll have to enter it manually? 

4 hours ago, thepilot said:

...and I don't regret a thing. I am generally still very satisfied with Navigraph's offering, since Jeppesen charts are used globally, and their app is amazing, as we all know. In Europe however, LIDO charts are more common, used for example by the likes of LH Group (obviously), AF-KLM, AIG, and others. I access the charts on https://planner.flightsimulator.com/ on my iPad while I fly in MSFS 2020. What surprised me most was how much up-to-date they are, in fact I saw some with effective date in mid July 2025. Honestly, even paying $70 just for (basically) a lifetime subscription would be an insane value proposition. And here we even get the game on top, so to speak. Big thanks, Microsoft/Asobo!

Same here, the LIDO Charts are amazing. I use Navigation Data Yearly for having up to date Airacs within Simbrief for €35,75/Year in combination with the LIDO charts from MSFS2024, perfect combination.

Greets, Markus

5 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

I completely agree. I cancelled my Navigraph subscription a long time ago. 

The MS flight planner is improving steadily, thanks to the WT team. 

And, of course, all the great free avionics suites. 

As I always say: MSFS 2024 puts money in your pocket!

I also had a Navigraph subscription for many years and cancelled it a couple months ago. I simply don't need it with MSFS 2024.

Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by Alvega

I don’t have a Navigraph subscription, but have been thinking of getting the TDS GTN750Xi which you still need Navigraph if you wanted updated data and charts. 
 

The other benefit is Navigraph has VFR Sectionals for the US and for Europe soon. I fly in VR and would like to have that in the cockpit. Is there any other way to get VFR Sectionals into the EFB? I am aware there is an app by Alex for France but not aware of anything else for the US. 

Can planes import the latest Navdata cycle straight from MSFS? 

 

If so,  are there any 3rd Party aircraft that do this?

 

Cheers.

If only LIDO coverage was bigger than just big airports where their customers are operating... And I'm not talking of VFR ! 😉

1 hour ago, Matt Webb said:

Can planes import the latest Navdata cycle straight from MSFS? 

 

If so,  are there any 3rd Party aircraft that do this?

 

Cheers.

Inibuilds A350, FBW A320 and A380. To my knowledge 

12 hours ago, MäxliBäxli said:

Same here, the LIDO Charts are amazing. I use Navigation Data Yearly for having up to date Airacs within Simbrief for €35,75/Year in combination with the LIDO charts from MSFS2024, perfect combination.

Greets, Markus

I also ended my Ultimate subscription a while ago and so far I don't need this navdata only subscription for SimBrief. I might get it if I run into problems but so far so good.

I continue to use SimBrief for the flight planning, but the default flight planner is very nice too for sure !!!

Only problem if I drop Navigraph subscription is maintaining up-2-date Nav Databases on my addons - PMDG, iFly, FSLABS, FENIX, FBW 320N and 380, IniBUilds 350.

With the Navigraph subscription I always have up-2-date databases 😉

Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by jcomm

Maybe the NavData-only yearly subscription will help for these cases, @jcomm. You could downgrade your subscription level. I'm not sure if you paid a whole year or just a month.

Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by Luis Hernandez