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SU3 Beta 1.5.18.0 is available

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1 hour ago, vbazillio said:

You have certainly mixed your browser cache with other caches. What I was mentioning was the MSFS Local cache.

If we are talking about the same, I run away from that kind of batch file/tool that claims administrator's rights and that - at the end of the day - don't know of what they really do or can do by mistake.  It's look like the syndrome of "I launch this tool it's one click promise and we'll see". I'm old school and delete manually what I know can be deleted and restored if needed.

  

No, based on intel shared in the official forum. 

Strangely I have not been logged out of websites, BBC, Facebook, Dropbox to mention some. 

I normally delete cache folders manually and have shortcuts saved on my desktop.

Links I have are:

D3DSCache - C:\Users\cjibb\AppData\Local\D3DSCache

DXCache - C:\Users\cjibb\AppData\Local\NVIDIA\DXCache

GLCache - C:\Users\cjibb\AppData\Local\NVIDIA\GLCache

LocalCache - C:\Users\cjibb\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.Limitless_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\SceneryIndexes

 

I have cleared those, deleted my Rolling Cache after reverting to SU2.  Repeating same 3.5 hr flight now

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36 minutes ago, BaronKen said:

I fly exclusively GA myself. I'm simply saying I see aircraft all over the place, at least during the dawn or dusk hours, and especially at night, so I don't know why you're not seeing other aircraft. Obviously for some reason you are not. Another MSFS mystery...

Enjoy your XP experience.

I do see other aircraft, but not outside a small bubble around the aircraft. If I park myself at Heathrow a departing aircraft will be culled when still more than big enough to be drawn.  Forget seeing flashing lights in the distance, I am talking about the aircraft itself - do you see these during the day?

For GA flying XP12 is fantastic, MSFS can't touch it as far as other visible traffic that can be seen and avoided.  Maybe AI traffic can be seen further out, but I'm only interested in skies full of real live traffic.

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42 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

  Forget seeing flashing lights in the distance, I am talking about the aircraft itself - do you see these during the day?

 

I do see some aircraft during daylight hours. On a recent flight this week I was surprised to glance out my left window and see a plane flying at about the same altitude as myself on a parallel track with a speed slightly faster than mine. It stayed in view for quite some time before beginning a descent to an airport. And, I see the occasional aircraft flying below or above me on a crossing path.

Obviously though these instances would not be enough to satisfy your need to see aircraft on a constant basis, so you are better off at this time sticking with your XP flights, as they seem to have more of what you are searching for or require for the immersion level you seek. Have fun!

Ken

2 hours ago, B777ER said:

They improved the night lighting on this latest beta?

IMO.  But based upon other commenters not so. YMMV.  TANSTAAFL.

-B

As a VR user, this build increased popping with less detailed scenery while not improving FPS. Not sure if it’s possible, but wouldn’t it better to provide a setting to allow users to control the LOD curve, instead of a one size fits all for all the different GPU and headset combinations?

13 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

As a VR user, this build increased popping with less detailed scenery while not improving FPS. Not sure if it’s possible, but wouldn’t it better to provide a setting to allow users to control the LOD curve, instead of a one size fits all for all the different GPU and headset combinations?

It is still possible to disable the new "parabolic" LOD management from the Developer mode. 

I don't know if the possibility will remain in the final version though.

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On 7/19/2025 at 6:12 PM, MrBitstFlyer said:

For GA flying XP12 is fantastic, MSFS can't touch it as far as other visible traffic that can be seen and avoided.  Maybe AI traffic can be seen further out, but I'm only interested in skies full of real live traffic.

As already pointed out in the other forum, in real life other traffic is really hard to spot, especially from a greater distance, all depending on weather conditions and size of the nearby traffic of course. If it rocks your boat to see skies full of traffic then all hail to you, but it doesn't seem realistic to me...

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12 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

If it rocks your boat to see skies full of traffic then all hail to you, but it doesn't seem realistic to me...

And it really isn't. Sometimes I wonder if the people who complain the most about 'realism' here have ever actually been in an airplane. 

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36 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

As already pointed out in the other forum, in real life other traffic is really hard to spot, especially from a greater distance, all depending on weather conditions and size of the nearby traffic of course. If it rocks your boat to see skies full of traffic then all hail to you, but it doesn't seem realistic to me...

Yes, traffic can be very hard to see in real life, and it can be very hard to see in XP12 too - the SIM is very accurate in this regard.  I have looked for traffic in XP12 that was close, but I never saw it. I have seen traffic further away because the lighting, aircraft colour and background colour allowed it to be seen, just as in real life.

The important point is XP12 draws it at any distance, not culling it due to LOD.

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29 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

And it really isn't. Sometimes I wonder if the people who complain the most about 'realism' here have ever actually been in an airplane. 

I use the term skies full of traffic because XP12 draws traffic at any distance, not culling it due to LOD.

Just as it should be, traffic in XP12 can be hard to spot. LiveTraffic plugin allows labels to be shown next to all traffic.  I fly without the labels on for realism.  I have the settings to show up to 50 aircraft in a 20 mile radius. If I turn the labels on, I see the sky is full of drawn traffic.

I have searched for traffic and failed, turned on the labels and have seen an aircraft very small and hard to spot, but it IS THERE, not culled as it would be in MSFS.

Yes, I have been in a real aircraft, flying out of Elstree in the UK and Panshanger before it was closed - I know how difficult it can be to see other traffic 

 

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2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I have searched for traffic and failed, turned on the labels and have seen an aircraft very small and hard to spot, but it IS THERE, not culled as it would be in MSFS

This is a fair statement. I believe it is a little better in SU3, I’ve been seeing aircraft drawn further away than before, but I understand your point and agree. MSFS LoDs are still being refined and I can’t say that I think it’s perfect.

I think they are making good progress and I expect this won’t be an issue in some time, but right now, I would want them to keep making it better! 

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I thought that SU3 might come out of beta today and be available to everyone.  Still time, I suppose but from what I've been reading, it doesn't sound far away.

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1 hour ago, cianpars said:

I thought that SU3 might come out of beta today and be available to everyone.  Still time, I suppose but from what I've been reading, it doesn't sound far away.

I hope they consider more work on the LOD issues first.  They may as well try to make it better in this beta now they have started it.  The last changes were reversed apparently due to performance.

They may as well go again and try to find another way, as gear disappearing on traffic just after take off isn't brilliant, and likewise, they could do with investigating why runway/taxiway signage doesn't seem to be responding to LOD adjustments; it seems to be locked outside of the usual set of objects for that, and doesn't seem to respond to anything.

Other than that and a few longer term issues that maybe will be looked at in SU4, it is not too bad and like you say, nearly baked hopefully. 
After I made a few tweaks to my setup last night, I was pleasantly surprised.

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2 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

After I made a few tweaks to my setup last night, I was pleasantly surprised.

Steady Bob, steady!

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2 hours ago, JonathanC said:

I think they are making good progress and I expect this won’t be an issue in some time, but right now, I would want them to keep making it better! 

Agreed.  I look forward for this issue to be gone.

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