16 hours ago, Krakin said:

Cloud-gate SU5, losing the ability to pan with the mouse and maintain manual control of the aircraft, losing LOD to the horizon etc. Are you sure you're remembering things correctly?

Apart from the example of SU5 (which brought regressions but doubled the performance anyway), normally the updates improved the sim. And the development process was much faster, we never had SU betas lasting 3-6 months! The pace was more like one update per month (WU or SU).

6 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

we never had SU betas lasting 3-6 months! The pace was more like one update per month (WU or SU).

I distinctly remember many people here complaining that Asobo was not taking the time to address issues found by testers before releasing finals.

Are we going the other way, now?

Cause'.... that would be completely typical.

12 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I distinctly remember many people here complaining that Asobo was not taking the time to address issues found by testers before releasing finals.

Are we going the other way, now?

Cause'.... that would be completely typical.

Now we have much longer development time and more issues. 

Also, let's never forget that MSFS was something totally new after 14 years of nothing - teething issues were expected and tolerable - whereas FS2024 was supposed to improve and develop what we already had.

Do you fly IFR? Are you happy with the current development and blatant regressions? Do you think that Asobo is delivering on their promises (trailers, interviews...)? Be sincere. 

3 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

1. Do you fly IFR?
2.  Are you happy with the current development and blatant regressions?
3. Do you think that Asobo is delivering on their promises (trailers, interviews...)?
4. Be sincere. 

• Yes, I fly IFR.

 

• Happy with regressions? No, but I keep in mind the obvious complexity of all the moving parts in this project, and I give Asobo and friends credit for bringing us the most incredible sim we never thought we would get; after more than a decade of stagnation and not a bit of hope that anyone would ever make the insane investment in our little niche to make what we have now possible.

 

• Yeah, pretty much, though they may encounter delays, roadblocks and setbacks which I take as mostly par for the course. I'm actually pretty impressed that the whole thing works at all. Consider the task of combining weather data from one source, ship traffic data from another, live flight traffic data from a third, as well as keeping track of multiple players flying together, on top of 3D world data and ortho photos, all combined and streamed to our homes in real-time, with code whose complexity might rival that of human DNA at this point....

 

• Sincerely, I'm one of those who remember clearly not only the things that get broken and complained about, but also the fixes to things we complained about that we mostly don't seem to recollect and rarely acknowledge in our haste to rush to the next complaint. (And also, one might think the tons of free stuff that we used to pay through the nose for and now take for granted might garner at least a bit of goodwill....)

 

I 2nd all of what @HiFlyer wrote above, and complement my previous post in this thread with a description of my last experience, last night, using a soaring weather preset that pretty much replicated RW conditions I flew IRL a nice triangle, departing and arriving to LPMN...

It was ALL (less the glider which is a model I never even had the chance to get next to because I don't go to Air Fairs and Festivals like that in Friedrichshafen 😞 ) just like IRL, with scenery, weather rendering and even if not perfect a very very effective simulation of convection.

Nowadays FS 2024 is more useful to me to prepare for RW soaring tasks than even Condor 3 !!!

 

56 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

Now we have much longer development time and more issues. 

You clearly lived in a different timeline from the rest of us. Jorg slowed down the cadence of the updates for a reason and SU1, SU2 and SU3 have been a lot less controversial than the early 2020 updates were. I rather they take their time with updates and get things right.

I too am happy that MSFS exists, but I can't help feeling fooled when I'm sold "animal migrations" in a sim where traffic does not keep into consideration wind and the runway in use, or an ATC textbox that is broken since months... I mean, a simple textbox.

The last update broke the METAR system, too.

But OK, I realize that the team taking care of animal migrations is not the same team that fixes the textboxes or breaks the METAR.

Maybe there is also a separate team that will fix the "underscore" speaker, probably breaking 2 or 3 other things.

I just landed at EIDW, I leave you with a screenshot. I could not reach the gate, my 129 passengers must be furious. Fortunately, they are also invisible and dead silent, unlike those featured in the trailers 🙂

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by MrFuzzy

On 7/31/2025 at 3:48 PM, bobcat999 said:

One way or another, us and Asobo need a way forward, as we cant all afford 5090's.  

I wouldn't waste any money on GPU upgrades for 2024, that sim is a mess. 

36 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

I just landed at EIDW,

You're keen, I'll give you that. Persevering. I like to read your comments on the state of the sim, because they're the truth.  

I just check in every now and then, and so far check straight back out! 

Enjoying this beta also to the fullest.

Sometimes the CPU Renderthread is being hammered very hard , but the server drives 2 displays. With 1 display no such thing.

4 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

I too am happy that MSFS exists, but I can't help feeling fooled when I'm sold "animal migrations" in a sim where traffic does not keep into consideration wind and the runway in use, or an ATC textbox that is broken since months... I mean, a simple textbox.

The last update broke the METAR system, too.

But OK, I realize that the team taking care of animal migrations is not the same team that fixes the textboxes or breaks the METAR.

Maybe there is also a separate team that will fix the "underscore" speaker, probably breaking 2 or 3 other things.

I just landed at EIDW, I leave you with a screenshot. I could not reach the gate, my 129 passengers must be furious. Fortunately, they are also invisible and dead silent, unlike those featured in the trailers 🙂

Yeah, EIDW aprons are like my local skate park.

4 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

But OK, I realize that the team taking care of animal migrations is not the same team that fixes the textboxes or breaks the METAR.

I cant quite remember the details but I remember hearing they got those animals and etc. from another game entirely and imported them.

1 minute ago, HiFlyer said:

I cant quite remember the details but I remember hearing they got those animals and etc. from another game entirely and imported them.

Planet Zoo

Is that default  EIDW Dublin?

Any testers notice this?

dd