Even more than 2 year ago, X-Plane scenery was pretty awesome. Do we really need more than this? 

 

Edited September 29, 2025Sep 29 by alanw2005

3 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

Do we really need more than this?

Yes. Because there is more than a little bit more to flightsim than looking out of the passenger window of a tubeliner.

Sorry but to me, the video above shows mostly flaws in XPlane scenery render... I mean, if that video was 10 years ago, maybe it would have been a nice comparison, but by today's standards, it's really not...

 

Edited September 29, 2025Sep 29 by Daube

Yes, as others have discussed in the past in the forums the X-Plane "default" scenery needs to be improved with some sort of ortho based add on or something similar to look like real life. The autogen also needs to be improved as well.

To me, the default scenery is the only thing holding it back from competing with sales against the other sim. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

Edited September 29, 2025Sep 29 by Pugilist2

On 9/30/2025 at 3:44 AM, Pugilist2 said:

To me, the default scenery is the only thing holding it back from competing with sales against the other sim. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

Both have pro's and cons as a platform.  I seriously doubt the scenery is the deciding factor.  P3D was once seen as the X-Plane killer.

What I think is the decider...marketing and the backing of Microsoft.

Edited October 1, 2025Oct 1 by GoranM

Must admit since this latest beta I have seeing a lot more xplane videos on youtube, where usually filled with the other.

I don't understand this obsession with either one being a "killer" of the other. To be quite honest I quite enjoy the differences between both sims as neither is perfect and sometimes it's nice to enjoy them for what they are depending on what mood I'm in.

What will ultimately kill off any individual simulator for me is not being able to complete a flight satisfactorily - at the moment the irritating simulator is MSFS 2024 because it appears to have regressed into not loading airport and ground scenery at the arrival airport again. I can't tolerate that no matter how pretty it usually is. I used to get frustrated at X-Plane because Vulkan kept dying mid-flight but now it's solid as a rock.

Where I appear to be at the moment:

• MSFS 2024 for daytime flights (better ground scenery - when it loads 😂)
• X-Plane for nighttime flights (airport lighting is superior by miles).

I'm thankful for both even if it costs a bomb to keep on top of the latest addons.

People are bored. people like to express their opinions, right or wrong. Cant see the point in comparing. means your never satisfied because your always trying to find fault. And as you see every time this starts up, they go around the same circle.

The wheels on the bus go round and round.

3 hours ago, FPVSteve said:

I don't understand this obsession with either one being a "killer" of the other. To be quite honest I quite enjoy the differences between both sims as neither is perfect and sometimes it's nice to enjoy them for what they are depending on what mood I'm in.

What will ultimately kill off any individual simulator for me is not being able to complete a flight satisfactorily - at the moment the irritating simulator is MSFS 2024 because it appears to have regressed into not loading airport and ground scenery at the arrival airport again. I can't tolerate that no matter how pretty it usually is. I used to get frustrated at X-Plane because Vulkan kept dying mid-flight but now it's solid as a rock.

Where I appear to be at the moment:

• MSFS 2024 for daytime flights (better ground scenery - when it loads 😂)
• X-Plane for nighttime flights (airport lighting is superior by miles).

I'm thankful for both even if it costs a bomb to keep on top of the latest addons.

It’s simple. Some people hate competition. I’d love to post the messages I’ve received over the years.

Edited October 1, 2025Oct 1 by GoranM

Its nice to look at others out of the windows videos; its free and do not have to pay a ticket.

I go back and forth between XP12 & MSFS2020. I have it very well populated with add-on aircraft and scenery. Plus I have the Got Friends avatar add-on and really like it - not available for 2024.

I have MSFS2024 installed but don't use it much as the key assignment procedure is a pita (to me).

I keep installed and occasionally use P3dV5.4 as there are some aircraft i really enjoy on it (QW787 & FSL A32X series) plus I have  FCSenery for all of Canada and that really adds to P3dV5.4.

I'm in a similar scenario too, with the exception of P3D, in fact I never had it.

Just XP12 as primary and MSFS as secondary simulator, both full stocked of add-ons.

Regarding MSFS2024, indeed the key assignments made me stay away from it, but I just discovered that at least there is a MSFS keyboard profile selectable for every plane making the use of the simulator a lot less painful and sort of enjoyable.

On 10/1/2025 at 5:27 AM, FPVSteve said:

I don't understand this obsession with either one being a "killer" of the other. To be quite honest I quite enjoy the differences between both sims as neither is perfect and sometimes it's nice to enjoy them for what they are depending on what mood I'm in.

What will ultimately kill off any individual simulator for me is not being able to complete a flight satisfactorily - at the moment the irritating simulator is MSFS 2024 because it appears to have regressed into not loading airport and ground scenery at the arrival airport again. I can't tolerate that no matter how pretty it usually is. I used to get frustrated at X-Plane because Vulkan kept dying mid-flight but now it's solid as a rock.

Where I appear to be at the moment:

• MSFS 2024 for daytime flights (better ground scenery - when it loads 😂)
• X-Plane for nighttime flights (airport lighting is superior by miles).

I'm thankful for both even if it costs a bomb to keep on top of the latest addons.

Nothing will kill X-Plane. Out of all the base platforms out there, if there was another economy crash with bread lines as we've seen in the past... X-Plane would be the only sim left standing, simple because it would go back to being a one man band, while all the bean counters would of closed up shop!!!

Zero-man team FSX is still going. A few hundred players on steam right now. So, it might be there also.

The only "crash proof" simulators are those that do not require an internet connection for license checking or for providing core services. Hope y'all have an "after the end" proof flightsim PC ready, with all your favourite sims from the stone age till the early 2010s (FSX SP2, FS9, B-17, IL-2 1946) plus a few current exceptions (DCS, Falcon BMS, FlightGear).

Edited October 7, 2025Oct 7 by Bjoern