1 hour ago, MarcG said:

1 - the take off/landing stutters were never there at the beginning of MSFS2024, this is something brought on by Asobo #Fact alongside the VRAM issues #Fact If the Sim didn't require any more optimisation then why are Asobo continuing to do so in this area?! Rhetorical question
2 - upgrading to a new GPU is not a miracle cure you think it is, my system is far from "old and slow". I've been building PCs since the 1990s so I know what do to and what to expect.
3 - I play many games/simulations and many of them work very well indeed on my system, including MSFS2024 in the right conditions.
 

But you're playing MSFS 2024 in VR, an with a 3070 Ti?  And you expect everything to be ultra smooth in VR with a 3070 Ti?

I'm running a 3060 Ti, which is not as good as your 3070 Ti, but it's not super, super, far from it.  I just play in 1080p on a normal 1080p monitor.  I am not thinking of VR anytime soon, and if I ever decided to go for VR, I think I probably need a 4080 as the minimum for MSFS 2024.

I can kind of understand if you are having performance issues with MSFS 2024 in 1080p with a 3070 Ti on a normal 2D monitor, then something is quite not right.  But if you are playing in VR with a 3070 Ti, yeah, I think you are way under-powered.  

Edited October 5, 2025Oct 5 by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, MarcG said:

1 - the take off/landing stutters were never there at the beginning of MSFS2024, this is something brought on by Asobo #Fact alongside the VRAM issues #Fact If the Sim didn't require any more optimisation then why are Asobo continuing to do so in this area?! Rhetorical question
2 - upgrading to a new GPU is not a miracle cure you think it is, my system is far from "old and slow". I've been building PCs since the 1990s so I know what do to and what to expect.
3 - I play many games/simulations and many of them work very well indeed on my system, including MSFS2024 in the right conditions.
 

The fact is that your PC is way underpowered for what you want to do with it. The rest is just you refusing to accept that. 

5 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

But you're playing MSFS 2024 in VR, an with a 3070 Ti?  And you expect everything to be ultra smooth in VR with a 3070 Ti?

I'm running a 3060 Ti, which is not as good as your 3070 Ti, but it's not super, super, far from it.  I just play in 1080p on a normal 1080p monitor.  I am not thinking of VR anytime soon, and if I ever decided to go for VR, I think I probably need a 4080 as the minimum for MSFS 2024.

I can kind of understand if you are having performance issues with MSFS 2024 in 1080p with a 3070 Ti, then something is quite not right.  But if you are playing in VR with a 3070 Ti, yeah, I think you are way under-powered.  

You clearly missed my first post on this thread, so do yourself a favour and re read that and you'll understand my system is perfectly capable of running MSFS2024 sufficiently enough in VR.

And with all due respect if you haven't used VR don't try telling someone what their system cannot achieved when that person has been using VR for 9+ years, plus the aforementioned decades of building PCs.

It'd be good to get back on topic and away from my non issues, when the issues are clearly with the simulator.

6 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

The fact is that your PC is way underpowered for what you want to do with it. The rest is just you refusing to accept that. 

Last post on this - NO IT IS NOT.

Back on topic please I won't be responding anymore 🙂

2 minutes ago, MarcG said:

Last post on this - NO IT IS NOT.

Back on topic please I won't be responding anymore 🙂

Yes it is 🙂

 

Anyway @MarcG, I don't mean to go back and forth with you on this. If you are satisfied with your machine, of course it is fine. I hope that you are able to get what you want from the sim and have fun with it. 

16 minutes ago, MarcG said:

Last post on this - NO IT IS NOT

Yes you are right. No idea why anyone would claim otherwise...

On 10/1/2025 at 7:22 AM, DAD said:

I am. But tried again and yes, all blank and black. strange. I know it worked yesterday as I took it for a spin and was explicitely happy that it worked

I got the Citation X working again in SU4 Beta, by reading another thread saying in order to get it to work, you must uninstall the 2024 model and install the 2020 version. I tried and it's working with all screens as should

4 hours ago, cianpars said:

ChatGPT said:

ChatGPT doesn't know word not allowed. Do your own research.

2 hours ago, Bigmack said:

uninstall the 2024 model and install the 2020 version

well, quite contradictive or, well, not really how it should be with a 2024 version. Will wait for an update then and rather continue to fly the Fenix which - obviously due to his external executable - is very unaffected by any beta versions MSFS is throwing at us

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

ChatGPT doesn't know word not allowed. Do your own research.

The settings I use have come from my research, experimentation and experience.  I simply asked ChatGPT what it thought of them to validate what I had found out for myself and it pretty much did that.  I guess it would have been interesting to see how it might have reacted if I was not using prety much optimal settings though.

1 hour ago, DAD said:

well, quite contradictive or, well, not really how it should be with a 2024 version. Will wait for an update then and rather continue to fly the Fenix which - obviously due to his external executable - is very unaffected by any beta versions MSFS is throwing at us

Yeah, I hear ya. I missed flying the Citation X in 2024 since the beta update. I just installed the 2020 version in 2024 and I'm back in the air again.

To the stars and above!!!!!!!!!

19 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

and if I ever decided to go for VR, I think I probably need a 4080 as the minimum for MSFS 2024.

I have a grand time with my 7800XT using my Quest 3 and High on Virtual Desktop. The SU4 Beta showcased that it's less about having raw performance and more about MSFS just downright needing some proper optimization.

 

19 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

But if you are playing in VR with a 3070 Ti, yeah, I think you are way under-powered.  

I tend to disagree, it might not be the most preferable card but the 3070ti is still plenty powerful. Where it mostly falters is it's limited VRAM which is particularly important for VR which basically renders 2 screens at a high resolution, this is further exasperated by FS24 using a lot of VRAM, but again SU4 Beta has greatly fixed a lot of this usage. Whether it's enough to make up for a lack of VRAM is a different matter though.

14 hours ago, Bigmack said:

Yeah, I hear ya. I missed flying the Citation X in 2024 since the beta update. I just installed the 2020 version in 2024 and I'm back in the air again.

To the stars and above!!!!!!!!!

O i bought it when it came out but havent tried it yet. I have MSFS2024 SU3.

How is the learning curve?

Michael Moe

3 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

O i bought it when it came out but havent tried it yet. I have MSFS2024 SU3.

How is the learning curve?

Michael Moe

It's a bit of a curve, at least for me. they made a darn good TO to landing YT video that is great at getting you started. It took me about 6 flights to understand enough to get through takeoff to landing. But once to figure things out, it's an addicting plane to fly. Especially if you like flying private jets in and out of non-major airports around the world.