18 hours ago, Gilandred said:

Unfortunately as a VR flyer I need to keep the graphics settings on the lower end otherwise it’s a slideshow or CTD.  With these lower settings I’m not getting the benefit of the better visuals at ground level.

This with your hardware? I would think that would be sufficient enough for 2024?

EDIT: double post.

Edited October 25, 2025Oct 25 by bvdboomen

On 10/23/2025 at 11:57 PM, St Mawgan said:

The best 12 months of Flight simulation I've had since 1983. 

That’s awesome. Good for you! 

6 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

The stuttering problem is interesting, because it's not consistent.  I can run 2024 at 60fps with FSR3 frame gen turned on and get an entirely fluid experience.  My friend's sim turns into a slideshow during takeoff and landing, with the same settings and a more powerful GPU and CPU, even when he lowers his resolution to the 1080p I run in.  He gets annoyed every time I stream and he sees how fluid my sim is.  Obviously, others are complaining about the same thing.  Equally obviously, it doesn't affect everyone, so it seems like all you can do is cross your fingers when you try it the first time.  Hopefully SU4 will be the fix for this, as I've seen the beta folks claiming large performance improvements.

Crossing my fingers and hoping for the best after purchasing and installing MSFS 2024 on a new PC is not an encouraging proposition. I need to know that it will be OK.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

Crossing my fingers and hoping for the best after purchasing and installing MSFS 2024 on a new PC is not an encouraging proposition. I need to know that it will be OK.

I feel for your abject intolerance of uncertainty.  Best Wishes Christopher!

Haha, I'm reading The Tao of Joy Every Day and just now read this piece, and I believe it has your name on it!

None of us can say with absolute certainty that one day will be followed by another. Nor can we say with certainty that one breath will be followed by another. Life is truly transient, and its transience is measured not from year to year, but from moment to moment. Resolve to feel your aliveness in the here and now. Direct your attention to each moment as you experience it. Cherish it as the miraculous gift it truly is.

Lin, Derek. The Tao of Joy Every Day: 365 Days of Tao Living (p. 15). (Function). Kindle Edition. 

Edited October 25, 2025Oct 25 by Noel

3 hours ago, tttocs said:

Really?  I haven't noticed any substantial differences in 2020 ground handling post SU16.  Good sized tricycle gear airplanes still weathervane like they're small taildraggers on the ground.  It's by far my biggest issue in 2020.

The ground handling improvements are the number one thing I'm looking forward to when I finally make the jump to '24.  Now I'm nervous.  If many of the changes were added to '20, something I've not seen mentioned before, then I'm afraid I'm going to be disappointed.  

Comments?

 

Scott

The ground handling for MSFS 2024 has been revamped.  Here is an XCub taxiing over bumpy terrain with small rocks. You can see it bounces as it taxis over that terrain:

 

Here is a plane landing and taxiing on soft sand:

 

Here is a Cessna 172 swaying left and right on the runway:

And here is Seb explaining the changes to the ground handling in MSFS 2024:

 

There is a 4000x increase in the detail of the ground geometry in MSFS 2024.  Here is the ground geometry of MSFS 2020:

 

Here is the ground geometry of MSFS 2024 at 4000x detail of MSFS 2020:

 

I think it's time for Asobo and Microsoft to close the book on MSFS 2020 and put all its resources behind the further development of MSFS 2024 and, of course, MSFS 2028.

I'm loving MSFS2024.

Its the sim I've been waiting for since 1998!

5 hours ago, Noel said:

Yes, stay in 2020 if you're that fearful.

Not sure why a request for information/clarification netted me that, but OK I guess.

 

Scott

5 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Just a subset of the 2024 features (via flight model config parameters) got backported to 2020, but aircraft developers need to take advantage of this. I don't use 2020 any more so can't really speak for the current state of things (though I'm pretty sure the default C172 G1000 version in 2020 does make use of it). But holistic ground handling wise 2024 is definitely better (note Stearmandriver's post above..

Thanks for the response, Len.  To be clear, I've certainly noted the many voices who feel ground handling has been drastically improved and I've been looking forward to seeing those changes for myself.  It was the comment about back-ported improvements to 2020 that surprised me, given that I've not noted any improvement in that area myself.

 

Scott

Probably not a worthwhile venture to continue to compare sims since 2024 appears to be in its own race now (the competition has left the room).

New planes galore and another great sim X-Mas I'm thinking.

dd

Edited October 25, 2025Oct 25 by Sky_Pilot071

4 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I need to know that it will be OK.

Haha … why?  Life is short, go for it!

How people have not come over to 2024 yet is beyond me! But each to their own. 

 

 

1 hour ago, SayAgain said:

Haha … why?  Life is short, go for it!

I once had a mother like that. 🤤

dd

5090 and a 9800X3D

 

Short answer is no

 

The performance is good enough, but the streaming, bluriness of the world and cockpit etc, terrible UI which actually makes 2020’s looks good, crashes, controls etc make it so much less enjoyable and I’ve switched back to 2020 now.

 

 

 

i thought 2024 was good, but having gone back to 2020 I do prefer it, not that 2024 is bad, I just find it quite problematic, especially with trying to fly in groups or with friends where visibility is terrible or you cant even see each other

Edited October 25, 2025Oct 25 by Brocky120