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I think the cartoonish look opinion that gets thrown around is BS but that's just my opinion. Even though 2020 got a *similar* set of ortho, it does not benefit from the more advanced tech 2024 has so GA flying will be subpar right off the bat. Another glaring shortcoming of 2020, and this is a big one, is the 2D trees. That alone is a big reason why I could never go back. Just the fact that some of you have to bring third party add-ons into the conversation tells me all I need to know.

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    How many years will go by I wonder before people don't feel the need to share this information any more? Are there still FS9 users popping up in the FSX forum from time to time to say how happy they a

  • Good for you. I enjoy 2024. Nothing I had specifically tuned except most settings on high and some ultra, some low or off (grass, flora, fauna etc as I fly exclusively airliners above  FL200). That‘s

  • I just cannot understand people who say this...

I love 2024 so much that I deleted 2020. Mainly I love the trees and atmosphere in 2024. I fly in Alaska and Hawaii mostly. 

Each to their own, I still hang on to 2020 as it can handle the FBW A380 moreso than 2024, but both FBW aircraft taxi like absolute pigs, so 99.9% of flights for me are in 2024 in the Fenix, the A350 or the 77W.

If I was hard drive poor, I would certainly uninstall 2020, but I have 2 8TB SSD's, so there's more than enough room for both. 

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MSFS 2024 | PMDG 777-300ER | FBW A380X | Fenix A320 | ini A350

How many years will go by I wonder before people don't feel the need to share this information any more? Are there still FS9 users popping up in the FSX forum from time to time to say how happy they are not to have moved across? Strange creatures, human beings.  

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Looks are subjective, so sure, maybe some folks like how they've got 2020 looking.  Personally, I do think 24 looks better but I also couldn't care less - I use it because the general physics are much improved.  MUCH improved, specifically in the areas of crosswind effect, ground effect, and ground roll / friction.  24 feels significantly more natural in these areas, and I would assert that's not subjective.  There's a night and day difference.  Fair enough if someone else prioritizes looks over that, though. 

I didn't delete 2020 right away, but I have deleted it now.  And I find myself in the position of needing to reinstall it, because the majority of the beta testing of the new version of an aircraft I'm involved with is going to happen in 2020.  Grrr 😂.  But I get it, the debugging tools are still more advanced.

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The two sim versions are installed. MSFS2020 only used for the SDK and scenery editor, to edit and update my freeware airports. MSFS2024 is use to fly VFR with small GA and build fine tuning small MSFS2024 sceneries that sit on top of my freewares.

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Its like going back with that ex gf... seems like a good idea but in reality it's the same old shi..

 

My opinion is that MSFS 2024 looks better than MSFS 2020. I noticed it almost immediately after trying it out for the first time just before Christmas on my new PC. Since I had only been using MSFS 2020 up to that point, it gave me a good baseline for comparison. The lighting is better, the colouration is better, the trees are infinitely superior, the DEM data and vector data have been improved, and those pesky "land bars" have gone. Absolutely zero room for debate in my mind. Of course, I cannot compare the quality of the PG in both simulators, but as an autogen only customer, MSFS 2024 is the clear winner.

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Before I switched, I took some screenshots around Innsbruck in 2020 and 2024. The lighting and atmospherics in 2024 were significantly better.

If you're using add-ons in 2020 to improve lighting and atmospherics, and fly airliners, then the improvements will not be so obvious...

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I love 2024.  I think someone mentioned earlier about 2020 using the same PG as 2024.  That is the case I believe but it still has those 2d trees, lack of new vegetation and those mountains and cliff faces still look like green and black molten lava.  

2024 is the way to go.  It's new tech and devs are slowly backing off of 2020 which we all thought would be the case at some point.

Don't get me wrong though, I loved 2020 at the time and got max enjoyment out of it.

Can those of you who prefer 2024 tell me if you till need add-ons to have a complete sim?

The fact is that most MSFS 2024 users are still buying add-ons. Some might even be renting them.

I, like many here, bought 2024 the week it was released to support the dev. I deleted MSFS 2024 a couple of days later. I did try it again after SU2 and have not tried it since. I might re-install it after SU5 to see if it has improved visually and with the features that are important to me. 

The only real benefit of upgrading to 2024 for me was the space requirements and the time it took to load the sim.

Today, I still prefer my fully loaded MSFS 2020 in every other area. Ive discussed these areas in detail, so there's no need for me to do it again. I've been waiting for a complete sim for 30 years. MSFS 2020 is as complete as I'm going to get for now. I do wish MSFS 2024 success!

To those who claim that MSFS 2024 looks better than 2020, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

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Hi Jose:

Speaking of a/c and airliners:

I had the Premium Deluxe MSFS2020, but got the Standard Edition of MSFS2024.

You’ll get back some (or all) of your MSFS2020 a/c (both freeware and payware; of course, subject to compatibility and compliance).

Though, I like to use the default a/c that came free to MSFS2024 (via MSFS2020), or exclusively via MSFS2024 itself (A330 was a good one for me); TBH, I still need to buy upgraded or/and native versions of the a/c in MSFS2024. MSFS2024 is supposed to make use of the new (dev) engine. To be seen, if all the upcoming a/c in MSFS2024 would be also available in MSFS2020 or not, and that applies to all add-ons…not just a/c…

And, you must know about the PMDG 737, as an example.

It kind of depends on your own set of a/c that you love and fly most.

Good luck.

(Note: I no longer can prefer one over the other, because MSFS2024 is the only one I now have, to keep up with the changing times (and technologies) but you don’t have to…)

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37 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

To those who claim that MSFS 2024 looks better than 2020, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Well the vast majority of beholders think 2024 looks better so there's that. And yes we do purchase add-ons but we're not the ones needing them to catch up to other sims. From what I can tell in this thread, 2020 users are the ones needing add-ons to come close to 2024. 2024 has superior clouds, vegetation, ground scenery, and as of SU5, night lighting, to name a few.

Aside from visuals, I like the fact that I can maintain control of my aircraft while using mouse panning, the fact that airport lights turn off during the day, that I can very easily update ATC on any changes I make to my flight plan without needing to restart the flight, so turnarounds are a breeze and the noticeably improved flight model which makes even the default planes a lot more fun to fly.

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13 hours ago, Krakin said:

I just cannot understand people who say this...

 

10 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Folks who say that "MSFS 2020 looks better than MSFS 2024" are like the wife who looks at her pot-bellied and balding husband and says:

you are just as handsome as you were when I met you! - while desperately trying to ignore the studly ripped fitness instructor (MSFS 2024) down at the gym.

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Modded MSFS 2020 still looks better than modded MSFS 2024....get over it!🤣

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